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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Pyrogenesis Canada Inc T.PYR

Alternate Symbol(s):  PYRGF

PyroGenesis Canada Inc. is a Canada-based high-tech company. It is engaged in the design, development, manufacture and commercialization of advanced plasma processes and sustainable solutions which reduce greenhouse gases. It offers patented and advanced plasma technologies that are used in four markets: iron ore palletization, aluminum, waste management, and additive manufacturing. Its... see more

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Pyrogenesis Canada Inc > Fair market value of strategic investments
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Post by StairwayTo on Apr 07, 2021 12:42pm

Fair market value of strategic investments

Anyone else is affraid of what would happened if HPQ sp would drop to $1.00 or $0.90 by the end of Q2?

PYR recorded a comprehensive income of $41millions for the year ending 12/31/2020.
The result of "fair market value" on HPQ investment, which saw its SP increased from $0.08  to $1.10  by the end of 2020.

PYR will probably record some $3M in comprehensive income in Q1, due to the increase in HPQ from $1.10  to $1.17 at the end of March.

Every drop of $0.10 in HPQ sp would represent +/- $4 millions in comprehensive loss
Comment by LastZaz on Apr 07, 2021 12:58pm
This may dissuade those who don't pay attention, but ultimately it's just the share price. Not always reflective of operations or HPQ's overall success.  I would not be too concerned though, given HPQ keeps finding higher support and has a pretty regimented and planned out 2021 that should give way to a higher share price in any case. 
Comment by yf4l8888 on Apr 07, 2021 1:03pm
to be honest, not afraid at all.  If you are invested in PYR you are most likely also aware of the HPQ story and potential that company has. You would also be aware the stock is still being shorted.  Personally, any blip under $1.00 to me is just a blip..and additional buying opportunity.  
Comment by StairwayTo on Apr 14, 2021 6:48am
If HPQ continue to drop, it will be devastating for PYR Q2 results. Assuming they have the same volume of shares they had in Q4 last year, today's accrued comprehensive loss if over $8,000,000.  Contracts and revenues better showing up soon, fast, large and with high margin. . .
Comment by claudemc on Apr 14, 2021 7:23am
Haven’t been on here in awhile but I see not much has changed, the doom and gloomers are out in full force as they usually come out to post their dribble when they see red. On your ‘analysis’ did you fail to note that PYR will be showing additional comprehensive INCOME from the exercise of warrants to the tune of $5 plus millions? No… pretty sure it wasn’t a slip up but rather an intentional ...more  
Comment by Chrisgodfrey202 on Apr 14, 2021 8:50am
As an accounting issue, and I am not an accoutant, dont warrant conversions go straight to the capital account and not income  ?
Comment by StairwayTo on Apr 16, 2021 5:02pm
I hope the $65M involves somehow HPQ that could help its sp,  Cause as of now, PYR will have to book a comprehensive loss of 12.8M in Q2 not negligible. PYR recorded a comprehensive income of $41millions for the year ending 12/31/2020. The result of "fair market value" on HPQ investment, which saw its SP increased from $0.08  to $1.10  by the end of 2020. PYR will ...more  
Comment by RealistDontalkm on Apr 16, 2021 5:16pm
they have 2 months to make up for that [/quote]  
Comment by fdfd12 on Apr 16, 2021 9:19pm
Stairway it doesn't matter what HPQ does. The market is reacting to what PYR does. Look at the stock price NOW! WIth the help of HPQ, the earnings were great. Stock goes down cause they want PYR to be able to earn without the help of HPQ. I think it has become quite obvious don't you think? [/quote]
Comment by StairwayTo on Jul 21, 2021 12:19pm
End of Q1  HPQ = $1.17 End of Q2  HPQ = $0.70 A drop of $0.47 which will result in a comprehensive loss of $18,000,000. or minus $0.11 eps Even if PYR turned all of there backlog into revenu in Q2, they will have to show a huge loss. I sure hope a major annoucement will bring the sp up by a $1 or $2 so I can breakeven and sell before the Q2 results announcement. Sorry for the downer ...more  
Comment by fdfd12 on Jul 21, 2021 12:26pm
Wrong $1.20 to $.71. Also it doesn't matter for the $-.11. The market didn't care before when their earnings were +.10 caused by HPQ going up. They won't care -.11 EPS with HPQ going down. Market only cares for PYR and how they do. If you look at their eranings, you need to look for "operational income or adjusted income" That is what will move the market. [/quote]
Comment by StairwayTo on Jul 21, 2021 12:43pm
I hope you're right. But you recalled the headline for Q4? I wounder how the Q2 headline will look like. Certainly they will hide this in the fine print. . . [/quote]
Comment by fdfd12 on Jul 21, 2021 12:47pm
Look, I am the one who said, "PYR did not do .10 in EPS since all of that .10 was due to HPQ investment. They did .02 if you take out the HPQ investment". Everyone on this board told me to Foff. The stock didn't rise at that time and NOW it will not drop because of this negative number. [/quote]
Comment by StairwayTo on Jul 21, 2021 12:56pm
I was with you then, and yes the stock didn't rise, but it would have dropped without it. So I'm concern that it will be adjusted in Q2 [/quote]
Comment by StairwayTo on Jun 30, 2021 8:27am
Well today is end of Q2, and HPQ sp stands at $0.72. A drop of $0.45 from 3/31 If PYR did not sell any shares, they will have to book a comprehensive loss of some $18,000,000 in their Q2 financials . .
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