RE:5 to 7.5 tpa scandium from Phoenix CMRI noticed that the Cap Ex total across the HPA and CMR business's is about 170 million. They would need a good idea of recoverability at Phoenix to assemble those figures no matter how rough. So upside lies in more partnerships and copper mines adapting the positive aspects implementing this CMR technology offers them.We are in a win win business model and that should lower the barriers to adaption and growth. So if these EBITDA numbers are base solely on Phoenix which I would think that are then we are looking at potential growth with additional mines waste stream contracts if these are the numbers on 1 mine you can begin to appreciate the growth potential. However raising lets say 200 million will still require some stick handling. So lets see how they do that.