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Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks... see more

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Suncor Energy Inc > My Reality Check: Be a Landlord or a SU Owner?
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Post by MigraineCall on Jan 12, 2022 1:42pm

My Reality Check: Be a Landlord or a SU Owner?

A funny thing about interest rates. Last time I checked, TD is charging me 2.75%, to hold SU in my margin account if i put up 30% of my own money, but SU gives me a 4.8% dividend. So, it presently pays me around net 2% to own this stock, plus I get to keep the upside if it increases. I could sell in a keystroke. I can also sell and buy back a minute later to crystalize a capital gain bit by bit each year for tax planning, so I don't get hit all at once.

As a past landlord, I owned rental properties, that I bought with mortgages that maxed out my credit, with about 25% of my own money in equity. The rent helped pay the mortgage, and kicked a small profit if all went well. However, it took over 20 years for the properties to double in value, and I had to work my butt off to do it, putting up with vacancies, bad tenants, hoarders, paint, maintenance, going to court, evictions, tenants fighting, move outs, cleaning, move ins, being there to collect rent, fixing appliances, cutting lawns, snow removal, sewage backups, city fines for not shovelling sidewalks, etc.. I eventually sold them, and was hit with what I thought was a big capital gains tax bill as my 20 year reward. Brutal.

When I compare that with owning Suncor, I'm quite confident it will double much faster than any real estate holding I could own, and it pretty much already did these last 12 months. A regular dividend gets deposited without an argument, hassle, or complaint that it lost it's job, one Suncor share never fights with another Suncor share, and I have yet to be called in the middle of the night to go unplug any overflowing toilet.

Granted, the market has been exceptional this year for those that took advantage of the low levels during the Covid crash, but I regret I didn't do this years ago.

Today, I can live comfortably in sunny and warm Thailand in my shorts and sandals reading the great thoughts and posts here on the SU board. 

I hope this might help everyone find their beach one day.
Comment by Boulter on Jan 12, 2022 2:32pm
Yes indeed.  I was a landlord for about 5 years when I kept my Ottawa house when I moved out to the hinterland.  One of the happiest days of my life when I sold it.  Of course I have already made more on SU than I sold the house for LOL.
Comment by Experienced on Jan 12, 2022 3:05pm
Interresting comments my friend. In my case through my life the house I owned was the one I was living in.  I had no interest in being a landowner for many of the reasons you outlined.  As well, I wanted to be able to wake up in the morning an know what I was worth (my wife at the time often had a different opinion about that...lol...but that is another story) and also that I could sell ...more  
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