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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Taseko Mines Ltd T.TKO

Alternate Symbol(s):  TGB

Taseko Mines Limited is a Canada-based mining company. The Company is principally engaged in the production and sale of metals, as well as related activities, including mine permitting and development within the province of British Columbia, Canada and the State of Arizona, the United States. The Company’s principal property is the Gibraltar Mine, which is a copper-molybdenum mine that is... see more

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Taseko Mines Ltd > inflation coming
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Post by nofluff on Jan 15, 2021 12:41pm

inflation coming

2 trillion u.s. stimulus package with minimum wage double. If true, u do not want 2 b sitting on cash.

nf
Comment by marketsense on Jan 15, 2021 12:52pm
That's exactly what Livermore Fund said on BNN this morning.  He is long gold and commodities. and prefers the samller cap names in these sectors becasue they are more undervalued but have higher beta in an inflationary environmment,  He also said he was expecting a lot of M&A activity so names like TKO with a relatively undervalued price but a large portfilio of  ...more  
Comment by fishmillion on Jan 15, 2021 1:47pm
A fully developed florence at 85 mill lbs/ year should generate 120 million in fcf. Thats implies a value for flo of about 1.70/sh can. This is running at nameplate and at 100% ownership... current fair value of all of tko is about 1.75/ sh.. so a takeout offer of 2.25 should be enough to get tko...
Comment by Notgnu on Jan 16, 2021 1:03am
fish, could you provide a quick overview of the $120 m fcf? I though ISL was cheaper in both capital intensity and OPEX so should the 85 m pounds per year not be X's about $2.00 to $2.20 cf/lb at $3.60 copper thus $170 m to $190 m fcf? N
Comment by fishmillion on Jan 17, 2021 8:21am
Were close snots... i used 3.5 copper, less 20 million for financing charge, then 20-30 mill for sustaining capitial, initial tweaks ect... there is the tko factor i never put in but ususlly is needed tho... lol
Comment by Notgnu on Jan 17, 2021 1:47pm
Cheers. Makes sense. Seems well on the conservative side but probs good to look at it that way. N
Comment by Little4Less on Jan 15, 2021 1:57pm
If min wage doubles this year in US, unemployment will spike and jobs will once again go out of the US.  Purchasing power will disapate and the stock market will tank.
Comment by fishmillion on Jan 15, 2021 2:05pm
Im sure the chinese will keep buying copper
Comment by marketsense on Jan 15, 2021 2:15pm
We'll see about that.   When people have money in their pockets,  they tend to spend,  not save.   The other caveat is how effective the Biden administration will be in combatting the corona virus.   If they can get a better handle on it,  the US  could get into economic  recovery mode which would counteract your rise in unemployment  thesis.   ...more  
Comment by JCSunsfan on Jan 17, 2021 7:20pm
We are trying to solve this in our typical US way--throw money at it.  People are not spending because the things they typically spend money on are unavailable to them--no vacations, cruises, pro sports, movies, concerts, etc.  So now they are trying the new Las Vegas--the stock market.  How else can you explain Tesla, which makes 500,000 cars annually being valued higher than the ...more  
Comment by nofluff on Jan 15, 2021 2:15pm
Based on current commodity prices that would b true. The double would likely b a phased in thing. The gov. would b doing lots of employing.  Hi end jobs today r being phased out. Ai is taking those. So a few hi end jobs left to administer ai. After that, u have your laborors. They woukd b availanle in droves. All about inflation. nf
Comment by nofluff on Jan 15, 2021 2:59pm
To illustrate. 10 years ago an oilfield field operator contractor made net 120 thousand dollars per year in canada. He got bonus for keeping production up. Today ai decides hiw to keep production up. So operator just follows instruction. Net today for operator is 60 thousand. That is 50% reduction and 50% inflation. Example 2. When I was a kid, I came back from a euto your completely broke ...more  
Comment by JCSunsfan on Jan 17, 2021 7:15pm
Doubling the minimum wage is a tax on the middle class for the benefit of the lowest rung of workers.  It demotivates the drive for educational advancement since college grads and high school grads are going to be making the same salaries.   Inflation is almost unavoidable with all the stimulus talk--unless productivity and technological advancement negates it.  Money is just ...more  
Comment by sclarda on Jan 18, 2021 4:09pm
JCSunsfan wrote Doubling the minimum wage is a tax on the middle class for the benefit of the lowest rung of workers.  It demotivates the drive for educational advancement since college grads and high school grads are going to be making the same salaries.   Inflation is almost unavoidable with all the stimulus talk--unless productivity and technological advancement negates it ...more  
Comment by fishmillion on Jan 19, 2021 9:27am
Well stated Sclarda
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