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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Troilus Gold Corp T.TLG

Alternate Symbol(s):  CHXMF

Troilus Gold Corp. is a development-stage mining company advancing and de-risking the former gold-copper Troilus Mine towards production. The project is located in the top-rated mining jurisdiction of Quebec, Canada. A PEA completed in 2020 ranks Troilus among the top gold mines in Canada today. A PFS and updated Resource Estimate are expected in mid-2022. Led by a team with a track-record of... see more

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Troilus Gold Corp > My Views on Recent Share Price Action
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Post by AlwaysLong683 on Apr 11, 2024 8:30am

My Views on Recent Share Price Action

First off, no doubt that was a big gain yesterday: up 10% on big volume, so there were obviously investors who wanted in and existing shareholders got a big bump in the market value on their investment. When a company like TLG is at this stage of its life (pre-FS), you can indeed have big swings upward, especially if the underlying metals (gold and copper) are experiencing big runs and excitement about these two products is runnning high. Thus, this seems to be a goldilocks period for TLG.
 
That said, when the FS is released, the rubber hits the road as the investment community discovers the estimate of how much it's going to cost to get this mine to first pour (initial capex) along with other particulars (proven and probable reserves, strip ratio, Internal Rate of Return, NPV, etc.). Don't forget, we're still in an higher interest rate and inflationary environment, so the FS should take these factors into account when estimating the total cost of the mine build. The FS is followed by the financing components (usually a combination of equity raises, debt financing, streaming and/or offtake agreements, and in TLG's case, almost certainly a JV agreement as IMO there's no way they'll be able to come up with anywhere close to $1B+ in up front financing on their own) and, more specifically, the terms of those financing components. 
 
In conjunction with the financing, the focus also shifts to the terms of the deals TLG enters into with the contractors, equipment rentals, labour, suppliers of the mine building materials, etc., and progress in the Federal permitting process (I agree the provincial permitting should be easy), all of wich need to be completed before they even start building the actual mine. I don't think TLG will be able to get away with dellays during this time period, and if the initial capex was underestimated in the FS, addition financing my be required, both of which are obviously seen as negatives. Further, while existing producers are certainly able to take advantage of the current gold price, I suspect they'll be a point when TLG  investors take a look at how much the project will cost up front coupled with when first pour is estimated to take place (my hunch is at some point in 2026) and realize that TLG will be unable to cash in on the price of gold or copper until that happens, they may come to the conclusion that TLG shares at this point in the game may be overpriced.
 
Finally, with regard to the likely JV agreement itself. I agree Sumitomo would appear to be the odds on favourite to be TLG's partner. Sumitomo is an enormous organization and thus have a lot of leverage as they are the ones with the cash to get TLG's project off the ground. TLG's advantage is they are adjacent to Sumitomo's Frotet project, which would make their claims desireable to Sumi. That said, do any current TLG investors know how Sumitomo acquired the Frotet project? The Frotect project's land package was originally staked by a company called Kenorland Minerals (KLD). KLD subsequently entered into a JV agreement with Sumitomo in which Sumitomo obtained 65% ownership of the project to KLD's 35%, with the option for Sumitomo to increase its stake in the project to 80% by providing additional funding, which Sumi subseqently did, upping their ownership stake to 80%. Then, in January of this year, KLD cut another deal with Sumi to trade their remaining 20% J interest in Frotet in exchange for a 4.0% net smelter return royalty on all minerals extracted from the Project. The transaction resulted in Sumitomo obtaining 100% ownership of the Project.
 
Now, I think it's unlikely that a potential Sumi / TLG JV agreement will turn out the same way, but Sumitomo, like any other potential partner, will try to extract a deal on as favourable terms as they can, just like TLG's management will. Thus my previous comments that the financing / contracting / permitting process is not a walk in the park and the investment community (especially those instutitions that currently own TLG shares) will be watching. Thus my strategy of waiting until the latter stages of this pre-construction process before making a decision as to whether I want to put up a sizeable chunk of cash into TLG shares.
 
Comment by rdy2rumble on Apr 11, 2024 9:12am
You sure like to type eh Alwayswrong.. There's a whole lot of words really saying nothing.. Your a "busy" worker  I can tell,, and when I say "busy worker" I'm saying you like to make things more complicated than required,, take a small problem and make it bigger than it is,, talk for the sake of talking,, you must be a hit at the work place... Do people fall ...more  
Comment by AlwaysLong683 on Apr 12, 2024 9:52am
I'm a very good touch typer, so it doesn't take me long to post. Talk about typing and saying nothing. Interesting how you go on in your post about me saying nothing, yet have no counter-agruments to my points - just generic insults. Usefulness = zero. You can decide not click on my posts or put me in ignore if you wish, but it seems you aren't very familiar with how the share price ...more  
Comment by rdy2rumble on Apr 12, 2024 11:18am
Call me ignorant then alwayswrong.. Your ignorant to the obvious here.. Here you sit biatching about TLG the entire time only to WATCH the price rise from the 40's when you first started yapping endlessly about "what if's".. The price and VOLUME clearly show YOU are not on the right side of this investment as we march way higher... I'm fine watching my TLG investment ...more  
Comment by Asdfghjk on Apr 12, 2024 12:43pm
He does this on every board he is on. Put on ignore and walk away.
Comment by crow27 on Apr 11, 2024 9:17am
Fair comments. My veiw is that any company that wants to proceed in building a mine has to jump all the same hoops. TLG has great advantages over many other projects for all the reasons we already know. If TLG can't build a mine then I would have to say no one can build a mine. We also are in a great position because of what gold is up to and where it will be going. With the way the world is ...more  
Comment by Gutinstincts55 on Apr 11, 2024 11:18am
I and probably most people here have absolutely no problem with you taking what I consider an extremely conservative approach into a Troilus investment.  It's your money, so you spend it how you see fit. I believe it will be limiting your upside substantially, you may feel differently, so go with how you feel. What I do have a problem with in all of your posts is the discussion of all ...more  
Comment by AlwaysLong683 on Apr 12, 2024 11:00am
Agree. Your money, your decisions. My money, my decisions.   Re. a "balanced approach". Seems like for many in here who are current shareholders (excluding you as you seem to be the most rational of the group), one can't be bullish enough on this name at this point in the company's life. Conversely, if someone like me makes arguments for waiting to see how management ...more  
Comment by rdy2rumble on Apr 12, 2024 11:21am
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