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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Vermilion Energy Inc T.VET

Alternate Symbol(s):  VET

Vermilion Energy Inc. is a Canada-based international energy producer. The Company seeks to create value through the acquisition, exploration, development, and optimization of producing assets in North America, Europe, and Australia. Its business model emphasizes free cash flow generation and returning capital to investors when economically warranted, augmented by value-adding acquisitions. The... see more

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Vermilion Energy Inc > Oil will it $ 100
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Post by divime1 on Aug 01, 2021 10:55am

Oil will it $ 100

and here is why .

Even at $ 73 WTI the rig count in the USA was down 3 . Oil companies aren't spending on drilling new wells or increassing production . They want high gas prices to scr ew Biden .

Iran attacked an oil tanker owned by Israel killing the British captain . Isreal will respond .

Iran needs a war diversion to unite the country against a foreign enemy . Iranians are currently rioting over water shortages .


https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20210722-protests-over-water-shortages-turn-deadly-in-southwest-iran
Comment by PipelessPauper on Aug 01, 2021 1:02pm
And VET has leverage to higher prices With the div returning 2022, it will be MASSIVE at $100 oil the upside here is enormous  I’m predicting we’ll see a $3 / share payout implemented in 2022  
Comment by stockmarket1 on Aug 01, 2021 2:33pm
Great thoughts P. P.! My previous, very conservative share price thoughts are realistic but, I hope you share price target are more right.
Comment by PipelessPauper on Aug 01, 2021 6:45pm
Thank you SM! At cash cost of $48, & $100 oil, that’s $1.313 billion FCF  (using the same ~ 300 mm capex as 2021). Currently VET mkt cap is $1.43 billion thus a $1.313 FCF is a 92% FCF yeild @ $100 oil what do you think the dividend will be on $1.313 billion FCF ????? & say 161mm shares? Insane???? $8 / share?? enormous leverage and upside here
Comment by PipelessPauper on Aug 01, 2021 7:05pm
Whoops - I forgot to convert USD to CAD... it would actually be 115% FCF yeild @ $100 oil ... Just insanity 
Comment by Natgasbc2021 on Aug 01, 2021 7:55pm
But arent they only 50% oil ish... Nat Gas has to keep pace for these #s to make sense...
Comment by PipelessPauper on Aug 01, 2021 8:34pm
$14 TTF is ~ $95 oil 20-40% of production from a drilled well is associated Ng. so if govnt /companies stops drilling for new wells, it’s not just oil that gets hit with a shortfall  and there is no OPEC standing by with lots of supply... No NG is trading directly off the DUC #. And it doesn’t look good. [verrrry good for us tho] also the split is not 50/50 its 60 oil, 40 gas.
Comment by stockmarket1 on Aug 01, 2021 8:42pm
Let's hope the market sees what you are calculating P. P. Still bizarre why the share price is still lagging immensely!! Unreal!
Comment by PipelessPauper on Aug 01, 2021 8:50pm
Yeah it is crazy, but it’s all oil stocks I own. O&G has become a “show me” story. My gues is 1 - 2 qrts to show the market they arnt gonna use the high prices to go drill a bunch of new wells.  Patience
Comment by sclarda on Aug 01, 2021 10:11pm
stockmarket1 wrote Let's hope the market sees what you are calculating P. P. Still bizarre why the share price is still lagging immensely!! Unreal! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The shareprice is "Lagging" because many oil investors have learned from hard experience that the oil price is impossible to predict and having been burned many ...more  
Comment by stockmarket1 on Aug 01, 2021 10:43pm
Oil, without any doubt is, and always will be very cyclical. Can't say much more than that in that realm. I think, if anything, investors just want stability and a "reliable " dividend again. Long term.
Comment by sclarda on Aug 02, 2021 1:29am
stockmarket1 wrote Oil, without any doubt is, and always will be very cyclical. Can't say much more than that in that realm. I think, if anything, investors just want stability and a "reliable " dividend again. Long term.
Comment by stockmarket1 on Aug 02, 2021 2:01am
100% well stated. Couldn't agree more. Debt, like consumer debt, is and will be the end of everything if not managed appropriately. Brian Acker , for several years, kept repeating that VET's divy payout was unsustainable! Well before it actually happened. Like he also said... " earnings do matter "! And you're right... Look at where we are today. It's like starting over.
Comment by PipelessPauper on Aug 02, 2021 2:53am
No its more than ‘like’, it IS starting over.
Comment by PipelessPauper on Aug 02, 2021 2:50am
You know, despite all our disagreements Sclarda, I actually agree with you here: ”At todays oil prices VET is cashflowing aprox. close to $500 million after capex. Lets say $450 million to be conservative as capex may go up next year and where oil prices go is anybodies guess. Lets assume oil prices stay in this range for a few years.  Once VET has gotten their debt down to aprox.  $1.6 ...more  
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