All Liers-total lies about supply and demand -they just make it up as they go -the game is rigged always has been -to make matters worse companies always cook their books with their voodoo accounting principals -99% of them get away with it -(To Big To Jail) -remember John Wright? -he took a $40B company down to zero -gave the company to creditors and remained CEO until a so called retirement with a huge buyout -no collusion there?