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Turquoise Hill Resources Ltd. TRQ


Primary Symbol: T.TRQ

Turquoise Hill Resources Ltd is a global mining company that primarily mines copper, gold, and coal in the Asia-Pacific region. The company holds a 66% interest in Oyu Tolgoi, one of the world's largest copper-gold-silver mines, which ships concentrate to customers in China. Oyu Tolgoi is located in the South Gobi region of Mongolia, approximately 550 km south of the capital, Ulaanbaatar, and 80 km north of the Mongolia-China border. The company also holds interests in companies that mine...


TSX:TRQ - Post by User

Post by GEEEon Mar 09, 2013 2:36am
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Mongolia investment wasteland 2013

Mongolia investment wasteland 2013


 



Mongolia investment  wasteland  2013

Call this  report  :`` One Flew Over Mongolia Cuckoo's Nest``
Or  "Donk's  Manure ``  - that's  what's  left  from $$  billoins   of FDI invesments.

There  are   2  main  causes of  loses  by  FDI  in M
 1. Overall  commodity  slump  incl.  co.- specifics  ( IE  dilution)
2. Loses  caused  directly  by   GOM  donks  

iN  ASSIGNING THE   %% OF  BLAME  for  lost  market  cap of  cos  +80%   exposed  to  M
    WE  ARE  USING  THIS  REFFERENCE  POINT

https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=TRQ&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=copx&ql=1


The  difference  between  TRQ   cap  loss  vs    Cu miners  index  cap loss =  2  times
M  donks  are  to blame  for  1/2  loses   SO  FAR  of   cos    exposed  to M

To  assign  a blame  for   cap loss of   cos  having just partial  exposure  to M
 is  more   arbitrary / tricky
FOR  the  big   cos  like  RIO , Banu   we  assume  10% loss  attibuted  to   donks  
The  rest    between  10-  50%.

  Except  KHAN 100%

This   record of  loses   does not  cover    loses  by:
-- Russia  and China  cos  ( China  alone  invested in 2012  2 times more  than the  rest of  FDI)
--  private    and  small public   FDI  cos   loses  (  about 100 cos more )
--FDI  cos  loses  in sectors other than mining
-- M  public , state  and private  cos  loses
--debt    and  àdvances`  loses  extended  to  M  cos  and  GOM  by   foteigners
(IE  TRQ  loans   and  advances   to GOM , capex coverage = $   2.5 B ,
Chalco loses  of  $  180 m   stolen by GOM , Shenhua  bribes  of  $  200m )
Covers  just  a market    cap loses  by   JUST  20  top  cos  listed on    exchanges  outside  M ( out of like     40  listed    and  +  120  overall   FDI   western  cos)
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TOTAL  LOSES  TO  RIO  COMPLEX  ATTRIBUTABLE  TO DONKS

=   + $  13 b
TOTAL CAP  LOSES  BY  COS  SIGNIFICANTLY  EXPOSED TO  M 

= $  5.8 B
TOTAL  CAP  LOSES  BY  COS  PARTIALLY  EXPOSED  TO M   

=$  3.95  B
 TOTAL   CAP LOSES   BY  PUBLIC  COS  INVOLVED  IN M  -  DUE  TO M  DONKS  
 
= $  22.8  B
TWICE  THE  M  GDP
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BREAKDOWN


A )  COS   WITHIN RIO  COMPLEX


  A.1.  RIO    cap   May  2011 =   140 b , now = 94.5 B ,  Cap loss =  46 b
  Atributable  to  donks  =   $  4.6 b =  3 %
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=RIO&t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=

A.2 ) TRQ    Cu, cap  May  2011=   21b  ( before  dilutuin)  , now=7 B  , Cap loss = 14 b
Atributable  to  donks  =   $  7  b= 30%
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=trq&ql=1

A.3 ) SGQ   COAL cap  May  2011  =  2.7 B  ,now  = 400M  , cap loss   2.3 b
Atributable  to  donks  =   $  1.1  b= 33%
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=sgq.to&ql=1

A.4)  ETG  - Cu, cap  May  2011  =  384m   ,cap now =   51 m  cap loss=  333 m
Atributable  to  donks    165 m =  43%
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=etg.to&ql=1
Note: ETG  properties outside M  are  pretty  worhless =  guarantying  loses  if  Cu  is under  $6
So  , ETG  is  in  category   of +90%  exposure  to  M .

  A.5  ) Aspire  COAL cap May 2011=  180m   ,now =  60m  cap loss=  120m
Atributable  to  donks    60m =  33%
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=AKM.ax&ql=1

A.6)  Modun Resources Ltd   cap  July 2011 =  65m  ,now =  9.4 m  ,cap loss= 56m
Atributable  to  donks   =28m  \

they  were  buying  1  coal property  from SGQ- and  donks  stopped it
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=mou.ax&ql=1

TOTAL  LOSES  TO  RIO  COMPLEX  ATTRIBUTABLE  TO DONKS =   + $  13 B

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 B)  OTHER    PUBLUC COS  EXPOSED IN MAJORITY  TO M



B.1) Prophecy  Coal   PCY    cap  May  2011  =  220m   , now    32  m  cap loss   =190 m
Atributable  to  donks=   95 m =  43%
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=pcy.to&ql=1

B.2 ) Mongolian Mining Corp  COAL   cap  May  2011 =   4.5  b , now  = 1.5b, cap loss=  3 b
Atributable  to  donks=   1.5 b=   33%
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MOGLF&t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=

B.3) Haranga   iron ore  ,  cap  May  2011=  102M , now =  32 m  ,cap loss= 70 M
Atributable  to  donks=     35m =  29%
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=har.ax&ql=1

B.4 ) XANADUMINE  cap  May  2011=  125 m ,now  14m  ,cap  loss=  110m
Atributable  to  donks   55m
  CUT BY 9 TIMES   geeesus   -2  coal  mines  in M
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=xam.ax&ql=1

B.5 )Voyager Resources     CAP  SEP  2011 =  140 M  ,NOW   =27M ,   cap LOSS=   113 m
Atributable  to  donks =56m
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=VOR.AX&ql=1

B.6 )  FeORE  , ipo dec  2011  cap    165 m  ,now  33m   cap loss =  130m
Atributable  to  donks   =65 m
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=feo.ax&ql=1

B.7)  Khan Res   cap 2007 =  4  B , cap   now = 11m , cap los  =4 b   could  be less due  to dilution
100%  attributable  to  donks  = 4 b    SP  cut  by  500 times  and  delisted
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=KRI.TO&t=my&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=

TOTAL CAP  LOSES  BY  COS  SIGNIFICANTLY  EXPOSED TO  M  = $  5.8 B


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C)  COS  HAVING PARTIAL INTEREST IN M.

C.1 )  CENTERRA  GOLD   CAP  SEP  2011 = 5.2 B  .NOW =  1.6  B  CAP LOSS=  3.6 B
Atributable  to  donks @ 15%=   540m
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CG.TO&t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=

C.2.) GuiLdford  coal   cap May  2011=  600m   ,now  200m  ,cap loss= 400m
Atributable  to  donks @ 15%=   60 m
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GUF.AX&t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=

 C.3 )  NORTH ASIA RES    cap  May  2011=   213m , cap now   53m , cap loss=  160 m
Atributable  to  donks @ 40%=   40 m
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=0061.hk&ql=1

C.4)  Origo Partners private equity investment  cap  May  2011=  300m ,now  =74 m
 cap loss= 200m  ( can be  less because  they could hase  diluted  a lot )
Atributable  to  donks @ 25%=     50m
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=opp.l&ql=1
note  interesting manipulations /convulsions  at the  bottom   lately

C.5 ) Banpu  coal   cap  May  2011=  64 b  ,now =  34 b  ,cap loss=  322
Atributable  to  donks @ 10%=    3.2 b  

C.6 ) M investm  group      cap   May  201=  660m   ,now    44m , cap loss =  510m
Atributable  to  donks   at  20%  loses = 105 m    
 SP  CUT BY  15  TIMES   geeeesus  
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=0402.hk&ql=1

C.7) China Daye Non-Ferrous Metals Mining   cap  May  2011= 1.3 b  
,now  600m ,cap loss=700m
Atributable  to  donks "  10% =  70 M
    HOLDS   one of the five biggest raw copper producers in mainland China and the fourth biggest company of its kind in terms of cathode copper production capacity and sales revenue. It has operations in southeast Hubei, the Yangtze River Delta, the Pearl River Delta, Hunan, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Kyrgyzstan and the Republic of Mongolia
owns eight copper, molybdenum and wolfram mines, which are respectively located in Republic of Mongolia and the Xinjiang +  Kazakhstan
2   SMELTERS , GOLD   REFINERY   MEMBER OF  China  RED  CHIP  500   TOP  COS .
NOTE  THE  STRIKING  TRQ  OVERVALUATION  (  $ 7B )  VS  China Daye-     ($  3 B )
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=0661.hk&ql=1

TOTAL  CAP  LOSES  BY  COS  PARTIALLY  EXPOSED  TO M    $  3.95  B

 TOTAL   CAP LOSES   BY  PUBLIC  COS  INVOLVED  IN M  -  DUE  TO M  DONKS    =22.8 B
TWICE  THE  M  GDP

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THERE  IS   ALSO  LOSS OF     NOT  RISED   MONEY    BY like  10 COS  WHICH PLANNED  IPOs
and  direct  flows  to M cos
NOW  ABANDONED /  SUSPENDED  INDIFINETLY
HERE  THE  M  COS  AND   state of  M   LOST   BIGGEST  PART


LIKELY  $6 B  NOT  RISED=   60%  M GDP


  SO  NEAR  $  30 b   LOST  THANKS  TO  DONKS  


DONKS  MAY NOT CARE  ABOUT THAT
  BUT THE  $  30  B WILL  REMEMBER  IT  FOR  loooong time
FOOLL ME  ONCE   , FOOLL ME  TWICE ....

The  biggest  NOT CALCULABLE   loss  is   missing  the  top  of commodity  supercycle  
Such opp  won't  show  up  again  for  next  15  Y

In trying to  grab  every last penny they  could possibly    squeeze  form FDI   ( call it greed by  retards)  they lost    $$  billions  and  pulled the  country  back  15  Y


IN 2003 OR  2004  THEY  STARTED  THE OT  NEGOTIATIONS
10  years  later .....still negotiating   LOOOL
The  sad  thing is    in  2020  they  will  still be  negotiating
  geeeesus  

THOSE  RETARDS  obviously  CAN NOT  IMAGINE THE   SCOPE  
of  what they  have  done  ..in the  end   to  the  poor  country

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different  angle  on Donks  damage  here
https://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/messagedetail.aspx?p=0&m=32193547&l=0&r=0&s=trq&t=list

more  here
https://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/messagedetail.aspx?p=0&m=32292096&l=0&r=0&s=etg&t=list
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