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Turquoise Hill Resources Ltd. TRQ


Primary Symbol: T.TRQ

Turquoise Hill Resources Ltd is a global mining company that primarily mines copper, gold, and coal in the Asia-Pacific region. The company holds a 66% interest in Oyu Tolgoi, one of the world's largest copper-gold-silver mines, which ships concentrate to customers in China. Oyu Tolgoi is located in the South Gobi region of Mongolia, approximately 550 km south of the capital, Ulaanbaatar, and 80 km north of the Mongolia-China border. The company also holds interests in companies that mine...


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Post by GEEEon Mar 12, 2014 2:14am
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Dr.Copper hospitalized in China with acute pneumonia

Dr.Copper hospitalized in China with acute pneumonia

Dr.Copper hospitalized  in China  with   acute  pneumonia
 
A.  The  last man  standing   among metals   in this   hard  commodities secular
bear  market got  knocked  down by  particulary  nasty  strain of   Chinese  flu
(panic  selling  started in Shanghai )
A combination of   swine  flu (  swines  got  slaughtered)  and  bird= chicken flu
(chicken fleeding)
Give  it  few  days  before  starting  funeral  arrangements.

The  whole   scam  of  Cu  carry  trade in  China  ,  which  masked  as much
  as  1 MT  of  Cu  oversupply  ( creating impression of  fake  indistrial demand  )
is  unvinding  as  we  speak .

Huge Cu   inventories in  both :    Chinese exchange  ( visible) warehouses  
 and   off  exchange   storage   ( invisible  - like   the  OT   warehouse on border  of  China  )
were  RE-HYPOTECATED  for  loans  (used  to  speculate   in various  China  bubbles ).
The  real inventories  are  likely  double  the  official ones  
 ..OT  is  best  example,  (sitting on like  1/2  Y  worth of   unsold  yearly prod  )
 of  EXTREMALLY  WEAK  REAL  DEMAND .

 Several  factors  contributed:
1. HIGLY PROBABLE  rumors that in a number of instances the same
copper stock piles have been used repeatedly and fraudulently as collateral
 for more than one loan   UUPS  -  NO  CLOOATERAL  = default

2, Leveraged  speculations  are  increasingly going  south
Series of  defaults   by  investment  scams  called  WMV,Trusts   etc  
which lend money  at  shark interests  to  another  scams - IE failed  coal miners   
 (hundreds of  $$ billions ) ... were  bailed out  by   state  banks
The  latest -  a  Solar  co   didn't,... sending  signal ,the  party is  near  end  

3. Mar. 9, 2014, Chinese exports plunged 18.1% year-over-year
 in February, missing expectations for a 7.5% rise.
 This was down from a 10.6% rise in January.
geeeeeesus   
Same  unwinding of  FAKE  TRADES  as  in Cu  case  -big  contributor,
 exposing the  level of  REAL  and  falling  EXPORTS
Finally  confirming what  we're seeing out of Korea and Taiwan, indicating
a "weakened momentum of global demand  FOR EVERYTHING entering 2014.

see  chart  THIS  IS  AS  BAD  AS  FAST  AND  AS  SUDDEN  AS   2008  DROP  TO  BOTTOM

https://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2014/3/11/saupload_china-exports.jpg

 4. This    export chart is  also  a  leading indicator  for  metals    crash
China  exports  growth   topped  in  2010.
1  Y later= 2011  miners'  stocks   topped  and  followed  the
 shrinking  Chna   export  growth  since.
Here  how  the   China  exports  fraud   works  
https://qz.com/70683/surprise-chinas-export-boom-might-be-a-fraud/

here   China  credit bubble  and  Cu  scams    role  in  it
https://www.btinvest.com.sg/system/assets/10964/GMO%20-%20Feeding%20the%20Dragon%20-%20Why%20China%27s%20Credit%20System%20looks%20Vulnerable.pdf

5. Shanghai   3  y  falling   index  follows   export  chart    as  well
Dropped  4 %  in just  2  days  ...UUPS  >>MAKE IT  5%  By  Wendesday

Mar  12  drop  continuees  
Asian stocks skid, commodities feel China chill
 MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares outside Japan fell 1 percent.
N225    2  %  , ASX    1  %
 Shanghai   Cu futures fell almost 4 percent to their lowest since 2009
BELOW  $3 ....GEEESUS   THE  FINGERNAILS   WON'T  HOLD IT  MUCH LONGER
At least one U.S. scrap copper trader has suffered "large" losses
 after a buyer in China defaulted on a deal  (DE  JA  VU  2009 )
 one of the first signs that sinking prices and tightening credit
 are taking a toll on the physical market.

Shanghai nearing   3  Y  low . If   will break this  horizontal  support  
- a  50%  DROP  IS  NEXT    GEEEEESUS  
https://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=000001.SS&t=my&q=l&l=off&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-US&region=US

6.  THE   SECULAR  10-=-  20  Y   BEAR  ILUSTRATED  BY  CU miners  ETF  has  2  phases
1. cut by  1/2  during  5  big  waves  and  2.5  y
EXCEPTION to that  average    ARE TRQ = cut by  6  in  same  time  
  ML  cut  by  120 times    geeeesus  ,and  IVN   cut  by  3  =the  "winner  "lol
2.Next  10  y   to  spend  in  a  bottom  range consisting of  
tradable  bottom   waves    6-7  months   up,  4-5  months  down -just  started
https://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=COPX&t=5y&q=l&l=off&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-US&region=US
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B. NOW  THE  Cu  PRICE   AND   MINING  STOCKS  ARE  DUE  ( with  some  delay)
 TO  FOLLOW THE    VERTICAL  DROP IN  CHINA  EXPORTS .
GEEEEEESUS   

THIS   IS  ALSO  AN  INDICATOR  HOW  BAD  THE  GLOBAL  DEMAND  FOR  STUFF IS  
1/3  OF  WORLD  =  EM  CURRENCIES   DEVALUED - THEY CAN NOT  AFFORD  CHINA   STUFF
US  CONSUMER  WEAK AND  FROZEN  , PAYING  HEATING BILLS  INSTEAD     etc.

C.  THE  GRUESOME  CHARTS

1  CU  SPOT
https://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2014/3/11/saupload_Copper-daily.png

Went into free-fall ON HUGE  VOL  in the wake of the MULTIPLE news ( bad  PMI,
bad  exports , dropping  reminmbi,  looming  defaults of  investing  scams  )
Hanging  now  by  fingernails  over  the   huge   cliff  below   after hitting $3
Copper just about holds near a last ditch lateral support level,
but in view of the gusto with which this wave of selling hit,
 it seems doubtful that it will hold beyond the short term.

Speculators are net short copper futures and sentiment is not exactly bullish either
, but both positioning and sentiment data still have room to reach bigger extremes
 considering their history. In other words, it is quite possible that the selling  will
intensify once oversold conditions have been relieved by a short term bounce:

2.  The weakness was especially pronounced in copper, but iron ore and
Chinese rebar prices have weakened quite a bit as well.
The ratio of GYX (GSCI industrial metals index) to the CCI
has broken to a new low for the move:

https://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2014/3/11/saupload_GYX-CCI-ratio.png

3. To be fair, GYX is actually quite heavily weighted toward copper.
 The current weights are: copper 47.1%, aluminum 30.9%, nickel 9%
, zinc 7.3% and lead 5.7%. Aluminum is in a steep downtrend as well.
 As a result, the monthly chart of GYX actually looks rather ominous,
as it is consolidating just above a long term support level:
BEARISH  DESCENDING  TRIANGLE  

https://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2014/3/11/saupload_GYX-monthly.png

4.  ALU  PRICE    ATTRACTIVE AGAIN   AS   SUBSTITUDE  FOR  Cu  WIRING
https://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2014/3/11/saupload_Aluminum.png

D  IMPLICATIONS  FOR  TRQ , IVN  AND  OTHER   CU  MINERS

1.  March  7  the TRQ  bull trap    closed  with  a  force   unseen IN YEARS
Selling  vol on  NYSE   32.8  m  sh    =  5.5  times  average  followed  by
12.7 m  sh   March  10  (  2x  aver ) and   18.4  m  sh   March  11 (  3  x  aver )
TOYAL  63 M  SH   EXIT  IN 3  DAYS  =    $ US   250 M  SAID : BYE  BYE  TRQ  
I  won't bother  with  TSX - just  say  0.5 B  $   said   bye  bye   

This  33m / A  DAY  sale  vol  is    SECOND  HIGHEST IN  ALL   TRQ  10  Y   HISTORY
ON NYSE  GEEEEEEEESUS
BLOW -OFF  TOP  INDEED  

https://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=TRQ&t=5y&q=l&l=off&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-US&region=US

THE  ONLY  HIGHER  VOL  WAS  IN  APR  2012  IN MIDDLE  OF
 TRQ   DROP  FROM  $  14  TO  $  7  
GEEEEESUS  
.
if the  sale  vol  would''t  be   split  betwen  2  weeks   the  weekly
sale  vol  would  be  biggest  in  history  

2   IVN  too   second  biggest  weekly  selling   vol in history
happened   6  weeks  ago in Feb  bringing   IVN  down to $1.5  bottom
After  that   we  have   3  weeks  of  dead  cat  bounce    followed
BY  BIGGEST  SELLING  VOL  IN HISTORY  the  wek  before  last one  
   around  $  1.75  See  wekly  chart
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=IVN.TO&p=W&yr=1&mn=5&dy=0&id=p87922119140

Bob orchestrated  pretty  nasty  shares  overhang  
IVN  has  now  571 m  sh , Floated  at IPO just  64m
Around   300m  sh  are  the   pre  IPO  investors  plus  tens of  millions  
 options,  warrants  , liquidity  shares  (your  head  spinns  looking  at
 the   "rewards"  awarded  to  them    )
  ...eager  to monetize   them  after  some  of  them  waiting  5  y
  for the   profits  .
Most of  them @   cost  $  1.6     second  biggest    pool  $  1.8  , some  $  2 , and  2.4

AS  IN  ANY  PACK OF   WOLFS  THERE  IS  A PECKING ORDER  TO FEED  
ON THE  PUBLIC   GREATER  FOOL .... TO  AVOID  FEEDING  FRENZY
 -  AND  DEVAURING THE   SHEEPLE   PREMATURELY .

6 months  after  Sep  11  2012  the  first   8%  of the  locked  up  
300m  sh or  so   were  unlocked  
AND  THE    EPIC     1.5  Y- LONG    DROP  STARTED
SINCE THEN  EVERY  3 MONTHS   ANOTHER  8%  IS  RELASED  FROM LOCK-UP
By  March  11 2014   only  40%   is  released
100%  will  be   by    Dec   2015  

 WE  DON'T  KNOW   at  what  price  they  are  willing
 to  sell  or   sold  already  and  what's  the  overhang
Only 3  things  are   sure  .

1. Above  $1.6   we  are  a   fair  game of   unloading  by  them,
Above $  1.8 = on the  double  

2.  Part of  the   $ 1.6  group   may  be  willing  to  dump   at   $  1.8 - 1.9
 before   the  $1.8 guys  step-in  and  increase  competition  for  the  
RARE  PUBLIC   SUCKER/  customer  not reacting to the  increased  
advertising  compaign -    (Bob flew -in  to  Congo  another  plane  load  
of   "analysts"   and hired  promoters  ..and now  they  are
  pumping hard  to pay  back  for  the   wineing and  dining ..   looool  )

3. The  longer  SP stays  below  1.7  the  bigger  buildup  of  overhang
due  to  periodic   unlocking of  more  shares

4, Owners  of  a  co doing  IPO want  to  price  it  as  high  as possible  
not leaving  much  room  for   appreciation in  a public  market.
Bob  excelled  in that   goal=  -PRICED  IVN  IN IPO   3  TIMES HIGHER
THAN  THE PRICE  HE  SOLD  IVN  TO  PRE _IPO  INVESTORS  
  and    3  x HIGHER THAN   MARKET    DID   1  Y  later   
Apparently, market now   won't pay  for  IVN more  than
 the  private  guys   did .
WHAT  ABOUT  LESS?  .. Who  is  a  greater  fool now ?
 lol

In  adition  the  private  pre-IPO investors  are  jailed   by  both
--the  lock-up  restrictions
--and   current  SP    geeeesus
Their   jail  sentence   prolonged  by   like   5  more  years   
loool
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  E  .OSLO, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Norway's $840 billion sovereign fund,
 the world's biggest equity investor, has cut its investments in gold
 and coal miners due to environmental concerns and will review
 the entire mining sector this year, it said
The fund, managed by the central bank, already excludes firms
from its portfolio over ethical concerns and in previous years
has blacklisted miners such as Rio Tinto and Barrick Gold
over alleged environmental damage.
Out of 27 coal and gold miners
* Sold down stakes in biggest gold firms
2013 was still the first year in the fund'sHISTORY  when we
 have been a net seller of shares

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