RE:RE:Worth at least a $1Cartonet, I do not understand why you do not count the convertible debentures as diluting shares. They have the option to convert at 18 cents for serie 1, and 11 cents for serie 2. I can understand that the initial debenture which is exchangeable at 65 cents may be repaid, but Series 1 and 2 will probably be converted, I get about 34 Millions shares fully diluted. Still that would add close to $3 millions in cash.