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Cielo Waste Solutions Corp. V.CMC

Alternate Symbol(s):  CWSFF | V.CMC.WT

Cielo Waste Solutions Corp. is a Canada-based waste-to-fuel environmental technology company. The Company's business model is to source waste feedstock from industrial producers and other suppliers and convert the feedstock into valuable fuels. The Company's Thermal Catalytic Depolymerization (TCD) process converts waste feedstocks, including plastics, rubber, organic material, and wood derivative waste into valuable fuel. Its facilities are designed to operate with no harmful emissions and through the conversion of waste-to-fuel, it can help reduce methane emissions from landfills, as well as reduce reliance on imported biofuels made from agricultural products. The Company’s Aldersyde Demo Facility is located approximately 25 kilometers south of Calgary, features a 2.5-acre site and a plant which provides proof of concept that can convert wood waste biomass to fuel.


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Comment by Redshieldon Jun 26, 2018 10:44am
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RE:RE:RE:capex questions

RE:RE:RE:capex questions Im not certain of the exact partnership model but I was told that a “turnkey” franchise was not going to happen as Cielo would need to manage each facility.   My understanding is that the protection of the IP is paramount.   Park one of these highly automated refineries in the third world and see how long it takes for them to fubar it...... one, two fubars tarnishes Cielos reputation.   Park one in a first world jurisdiction and how do you ensure they are not cooking the books....  reverse engineering it.....

This is just a morning pontification on my part.....  I’m not certain of ANYTHING other than the fact they will have some sort of control over each facility but not sure to what degree.   For less pontificating, we need to sit at the feet of the Pontiff, his holiness Don Allan and Chief Cardinal Michael.. 



WannaBeFatCat wrote: It will be difficult for Cielo to persuade investors or business people to jump on board with minority shares. I REALLY hope that's not where we're headed, otherwise growth here will be like molasses. I'd much rather see Cielo make 100 deals in 2019 and collect royalties than to drown in debt or dilution to finance a minority partner. This would be an epic mistake. 

Get 50-100 companies on royalties. Our SP would rocket. Then we could pursue equity financing at a MUCH higher SP, find minority partners, grow further, then simply use profits to open more locations. Having a controlling interest in every facility is a greedy, unintelligent way to grow this business, unless the plan is to spend the next 50 years doing it and release 10 billion shares at .10 a piece. God help us all if that's the route we take. But ofcourse, this being a public company, we could always voice our concerns at shareholder meetings and vote for different management if things really go sideways. I hope Don is not greedy and values rapid growth over his ego. 

Lastly, if this technology proves popular, it won't be long before other companies come up with variations of the same and we lose our market leader status. Cielo needs to act fast and grow quickly. 

Redshield wrote: My understanding is Cielo will have a controlling interest in every facility. This is For a plethora of reasons. IP, quality control etc... Think of the implications of that..... Cielo acquiring cash flow within 3 months of each facility??? Globally???? the numbers are staggering....
Freelunch5 wrote: What is the capex for each 1824 litre/hr refinery?      

Does the co. plan on building/owning all refineries or will it license the tech to 3rd parties?

 




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