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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Cielo Waste Solutions Corp. V.CMC

Alternate Symbol(s):  V.CMC.WT | CWSFF

Cielo Waste Solutions Corp. is a Canada-based waste-to-fuel environmental technology company. The Company's business model is to source waste feedstock from industrial producers and other suppliers and convert the feedstock into valuable fuels. The Company's Thermal Catalytic Depolymerization (TCD) process converts waste feedstocks, including plastics, rubber, organic material, and wood... see more

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Cielo Waste Solutions Corp. > cielo's new video says "Thermal catalytic Depolymerization
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Post by on-target on Jun 04, 2021 2:08pm

cielo's new video says "Thermal catalytic Depolymerization

cielo's new video says they use "Thermal catalytic Depolymerization" (TDP) and so does this video from 2014.
 
Listen to cielo's new video says @ 0.27 min We use  "Thermal catalytic Depolymerization" (TDP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXI-l788KVY

Now listen as this video @ 0.32 min says "Mixes with catylst" 
Then the same video says @ 4:17 min "Thermal catalytic Depolymerization" (TDP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1sHwi8B_bs

and this video from 2008 shows using "Thermal Depolymerization" (TDP Gas Fuel Energy) in philadelphia, USA.They use water instead of oil & the landfil waste gets turned into fuel just the same. tho water is less of a cost than using oil in the reactor. Its all about the fact that plastic is not a good conductor of heat. So you need to have some kind of catalyst making contact with the plastic and to the heat source to heat plastic with zero oxigen in reactor. Add scrubber to get out the sulfer and you have a "Thermal Catalytic Depolymerization" Some use water. Some use oil. Some use a secret  liquid catalyst that may do it faster. This has been going on for some time. I'm sure Cielo will say they do it best. That's just marketing. You can fine tune science/the process. That's what I think Cielo is doing. But Cielo wasn't the first as you can see in the videos. They even say the words "Thermal catalytic Depolymerization." 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtS6K43np9o

In Canada (maybe) they can only use 15% plastic. We only have cielo saying this. But in the USA, as I've shown in video above they openly do use all the plastic they want (Not just 15%) with the same "Thermal Depolymerization" (TDP) process.
   
   Also in India in this video they use all plastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC5xRZEyDUM

   Same is true that Thermal Depolymerization" (TDP) process with all the plastic they want to put in, (not just 15%).is being done in Germany, where Don/Cielo said he learned about this (TDP) process. Like this company's video in Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRkVYgNL8n0

This is from this same company in this last video:

This brainwave was the starting signal for ReOil. Three years later Wolfgang Hofer and his team had already managed to start up the first test facility in the technology center in the Schwechat Refinery. For ReOil there was also no way of getting around the heating of plastic waste. But then a liquid solvent or (Catalyst) that solved two problems in one fell swoop came into play, as the engineer explains: “This solvent is part of a cycle in the unit, meaning that it’s already hot. It is mixed with the plastic right at the start of the process, supporting the heating stage and reducing the energy needed thanks to better heat conductivity. What’s more, pure plastic would be too tough to transport through pipes. Adding the solvent also enables us to address this problem.”
 
After it has been melted down, this mass is vaporized into gas, whereby the long chains of molecules are broken down. They are then subsequently reassembled into smaller chains via chemical processes. In principle the crude oil has now been recovered.

This is an excerpt from the German aticle/video, same company.
https://www.omv.com/en/blog/reoil-getting-crude-oil-back-out-of-plastic

   I'm not trying to bring down cielo's price. I hope it goes up.
Companies are using as much plastic as they want outside of Canada as I've proved.

   Don even said Cielo wants to clean up the plastic problem in the ocean and around the world and he sees cielo as an importer of plastic to clean it up. IMO, no company can do all this plastic by only using 15% @ ea batch. The 15% what Cielo said is all that Canada lets them use and what Don says in this video doesn't add up.

Listen to Don saying what Cielo plans to do with plastic in this video starting @ 7:35 min to about 9 min mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMYsasotbgo

I hope for the best for cielo and shareholders. 




 
Comment by scott01 on Jun 04, 2021 3:18pm
my understanding is that the 15 percent rule refers to what is allowable to be considered a renewable energy. Cielo has hired a lobbyist company to try and get the 15 percent raised and still meet the renewable protocols. It has also been stated that by staying in the renewable sector revenues could easily double just from carbon credits. It is my understanding that they firstly consider ...more  
Comment by scott01 on Jun 04, 2021 3:28pm
and..... there are many more waste products sent to landfills than plastic. Organics including food, forestry and industry, sewage sludge, household garbage. Plastics are a problem and many companies can deal.with them. Cielo on the other hand can reuse it all.
Comment by JustLookn on Jun 04, 2021 8:26pm
Correct, they need to stay at or below 15% plastic to be considered renewable diesel, so they can get premium dollar.  Correct they are lobbying to have this changed.  Carbon credits are unrelated.
Comment by lscfa on Jun 04, 2021 5:05pm
This co. converts plastic to fuel at sea with water.... https://oceansunited.org/
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