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good natured Products Inc. offers an assortment of plant-based products made all, or in part, from the maximum possible amount of rapidly renewable resources. The Company’s segments include Industrial, Packaging, General Merchandise, Commercial Business Supplies, and Services. The Company is focused on making it easy and affordable for business owners and consumers to shift away from petroleum... see more

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Post by FreddieMac on Nov 05, 2021 1:51pm

Catalysts for the stock ....

It's been interesting to watch all of the things suggested here that were going to move the stock price, but which either failed to materialize or once they happened failed to move the stock.  And I'm not including Doggy's litany of predictions in any of those. 

My evolving view is that many of the things people are pointing at (Q3 financial report for example) are already generally priced-in, as people can do the math based on past quarters, plus their stated organic growth, plus the guidance they have given for the additive impact of acquisitions and new contracts.   

So the real question becomes: what has the market not yet priced in, either fully or at all ? 

A few thigns come to mind:

1.   Premature profitability.  This is possible but not likely, but the sort of thing that would surprise to the upside for the stock.

2.   A transformative acquisition.  The company has a good amount of cash on their balance sheet and they are skilled financial engineers, so a significant acquisition could vault the revenue (and EBITDA) to a much higher level, without any additional dilution.  That could be material.

3.   Some transformative big customer wins.  So this is in the organic growth category and an example is the $13 million contract with the US food company mentioned a while ago.  I say "some transformative big customer wins" because the effect of the single $13 million contract was minimal, so I would expect they need to put up a few of these to show the trendline and materially higher revenue results.

One final note:  we've all been watching higher oil prices and this is a cost negative for GDNP's legacy competition of petroleum-based packaging.   It's easier to switch to GDNP when the oil-based products are themselves not getting any cheaper becuase their input costs are rising with the price of oil.
Comment by canon12345 on Nov 05, 2021 5:47pm
My thoughts on your post. 1 You ask what has the market not priced in? Well the stock was twice the price it is now, what was priced in then and what has occured after to drive the price down to current levels? 2 You are assuming that the market is somehow reflecting correctly all info available and that markets are reflective of actual value?  3 If you are sugeesting that somehow the ...more  
Comment by FreddieMac on Nov 06, 2021 1:56pm
So let me get this straight: When the price is high, you like it and feel it better reflects "actual value" (however you may define it), but when the price is low you feel it is not reflective of actual value. Yet in a separate sentence you argue that share price and actual value are not always the same.  But you only apply that logic to one share price (the low one) and not the ...more  
Comment by diamondhands on Nov 06, 2021 7:40pm
Broadly speaking I think his point is that the company has fundamentally advanced significantly relative to last year, and therefore if the company was priced fairly at any point between e.g. c$0.9 - 1.98  then it should be worth at least that amount now.  for a specific valuation you can just run your own model, but hey maybe I can build one for you and share it, but even some back ...more  
Comment by FreddieMac on Nov 06, 2021 8:43pm
Yes, fair point and at a high level I agree that the company is generating materially more revenue than say 9 months ago.  That and more clarity on positive momentum and revenue growth into 2022.   But the company has also created more dilution as well, with the $1.20 / share offering and the warrants that went with it, plus the dilution (upon conversion) of the latest debt round ...more  
Comment by canon12345 on Nov 07, 2021 8:55am
Hey Freddie I don't believe I personally attacked anyone on here and simply gave you my thoughts on your post. With most small tsxv Companies it is very difficult to determine a "correct value" for what it should be trading at as any type of NPV calculations means little when the focus is on growing Revenue not Net Income. Having said that, we all are trying to forecast where this ...more  
Comment by FreddieMac on Nov 07, 2021 10:42am
Thanks for your post canon and your points are well made and well taken.   The picture is still a little fuzzy, but the beginnings of what could be a greater than $100 million revenue year in 2022 are starting to appear; I just hope that additional financings (which will be necessary) are not unduly dilutive, as that will impact the ultimate exit price per share.   The macro setup ...more  
Comment by doggy123 on Nov 07, 2021 1:43pm
Paul is a very good ceo but one think for sure he can't promote a company....The only reason there is no pre 3 is because it was not a good one or something in the Q3 not good for shareholders...Every company release a pre Q especially when its a good one...One thing i noticed on every seminar he said i don't want to sound like a recorder well he is unfortunately....still believe big in ...more  
Comment by diamondhands on Nov 07, 2021 10:07pm
Doggy I just want to say that they already raised the money for the next acquisition 
Comment by doggy123 on Nov 08, 2021 9:21am
Paul need to wack up and stopped repeating his old seminar webcams. His last 5 plus 6 seminars shares dropped because nothing new is release to shareholders to buy instead they are selling.He mention on every siminars he doesn't want to sound like a old broken record. Well he not doing any good by repeating that times after times.At this discount price no insiders is buying.Probably buying ...more  
Comment by RainMakerX on Nov 08, 2021 10:45am
You sound like an impatient child and it's obvious you're just looking for a quick profit. This company is making the right moves and Paul emphasizes those things very clearly. Do you really expect him to spit something out new every seminar even if no new developments have been made since? That's not a company I would want to be invested in. You have to understand good things take ...more  
Comment by doggy123 on Nov 08, 2021 2:28pm
Well one thing for sure the release Q3 is before market probably mean good news if it was after market it would probably be  bad news...The good news will probably happen in the near future with a halt.
Comment by RainMakerX on Nov 08, 2021 3:47pm
Oh man, you are way too fixated on the small nuances and fluctuations. I have some advice, maybe don't look at the stock for a while. It will help ease your anxiety.
Comment by doggy123 on Nov 08, 2021 4:12pm
Got to post something here once a while or it will become a funeral home....dead bullboard
Comment by RoyKerr on Nov 12, 2021 1:51pm
canadian retail microcap investors are allergic to PPs. they can tank stock for 6-12 months, even if the PP made the company stronger, or actually saved the company from bankruptcy. The NCU offering a couple of days ago is a good example. It was needed because the company has huge debt and covid monkey wrenched plans; can investors react with real anger and want people brought up on criminal ...more  
Comment by RoyKerr on Nov 12, 2021 1:38pm
i like how keynes described market prices: the stock market is like a beauty contest where you have to pick the woman you think the judges think is the prettiest. 
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