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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Giga Metals Corp. V.GIGA.WT.A


Primary Symbol: V.GIGA Alternate Symbol(s):  GIGGF

Giga Metals Corporation is a Canada-based company, which is engaged in the acquisition and exploration of mineral properties in Canada. The Company’s core asset is the Turnagain Project, located in northern British Columbia, which contains one of the few undeveloped sulfides nickel and cobalt resources. The Turnagain property lies immediately north of the Turnagain River near its confluence... see more

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Giga Metals Corp. > Re the Tesla rumor
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Post by gunzod on Nov 04, 2020 11:07am

Re the Tesla rumor

  1. stock.

The journalist alleged that Giga was in discussions with Tesla Motors to help develop Giga’s Turnagain nickel project in northern British Columbia. That made the stock price skyrocket all the way to a high of $2.55 in mid-September, with five insiders pounding on the bid. Reality is a cold shower, though. The stock has toppled since the spike, as Mr. Market comes to grips with the fact there is no Tesla deal with Giga, and more importantly, there never were any advanced negotiations with Tesla. The stock closed on Friday October 30 at $0.55. Whoever bought at the top has lost 80%.

How do we know the story was wrong? Giga told us so in its press release and Giga’s CEO said the same to the shareholders at the AGM. More on the AGM below.

Reuters, by the way, refuses to say whether it confirmed the identity of the three anonymous sources credited in the inaccurate article, either before or after publication. My inquiring email to Reuters’ ethics commissioner was answered by Heather Carpenter, Senior Director, Communications (a.k.a.’ damage control’) with a non-answer.

Giga’s AGM was held Thursday, October 22. I attended virtually. I emailed the company in advance at Giga’s info@ email address because I don’t do ambush, and advised I intended to ask questions. I did not record the meeting but did take took notes. Mr. Jarvis answered all the questions and told us the following (fairly paraphrased):

  1. Who at Giga was in negotiations with Tesla as alleged by Ms. Desai. Answer: we’re talking to everyone all the time and everyone else is talking to everyone else all the time, too, but there was nothing in particular with Tesla
  2. When did Ms. Desai contact Giga President Martin Vydra for a quote for her article, meaning Vydra knew the article was coming? Answer: Martin is very well known in critical metals circles in London so it’s not a surprise he was contacted. Also he had suggested a few months prior that someone should do an article on the zero carbon emissions side of the Giga Metals story. So this all makes sense that Ms. Desai would contact him a couple of months ago about this
  3. Why did five insiders including the Corporate Secretary all decide to exercise cheap derivatives at roughly the same time? Answer: the warrants were expiring, and we don’t pay these people very much, and the stock had started a bit of a run, so it’s okay they made money in the market
  4. Has Giga been contacted by any regulator or police force related to the insider trades or the incorrect article? Answer: not to the best of our knowledge
  5. (Here’s my favourite) Were any of the people at this shareholder meeting (including all the directors and the Corporate Secretary) one of the three anonymous sources cited by the journalist in her article? Answer: no

I need sumatriptan to work with those.

First, I don’t think Mr. Jarvis was the bad guy here. He stood up and took the bullets for the team. First class dude doing his job as CEO. He doesn’t seem to be the kind of person to cover up for other people’s sins. So, clapping hands for him.

But these answers? OMG. Let’s go back to question 1. Essentially he’s saying the reporter is full of warty toads. Anyone who’s CEO is any industry is always talking to everyone in the industry, so that makes her ‘story’ irrelevant because it’s not news. His answer guts the story.

Question 2 about Mr. Vydra’s quote. He knew the story was coming. He knew. He may not have known the exact date of publication, but he knew it was coming. And as a long-time market pro he had to have known the impact a “Tesla is helping us” story would have on the stock price. Do you think he may have told anyone the story was coming?

Answer 3 begs another question, namely, why did the stock start to run before the story was published? There was no Giga news, no catalyst for any move in the share price up or down. So why did it start to move? A logical guess would be that people expected the incorrect story to be published in the near future, bringing in buying in advance. And if that supposition is right, then at least one of the insiders knew it was coming, because why else exercise cheap derivatives in a vacuum? The only explanation that makes sense is someone at Giga knew the incorrect story was going to soon be published.

Also, note his answer to the question only addressed the warrants, exercised only by Anthony Milewski, who is Giga’s Chair and a director. Milewski took over $6,000,000 out of the market on the back of the incorrect Reuters article. (Jarvis took none.) Jarvis’ answer does not address why the insiders exercised 1,300,000 cheap options at roughly the same time, without an explicable catalyst. Again, it seems obvious that one of the insiders knew the incorrect story was going to soon be published.

I back off on question 4. Sometimes the regulators contact a target early, sometimes not. I say a little prayer every morning when I log in that a regulator is actually looking into this. And it’s not like the police or the regulators say, Hello, I’m investigating you. So fair dinkum to Mr. Jarvis’ answer.

A quick aside. None of the regulators responded to my request for confirmation an investigation is underway, save for the British Columbia Securities Commission whose written response was it doesn’t ever confirm or deny whether an investigation is underway. That’s the answer I expected.

As for Question 5 about the anonymous sources, imagine the Chair Milewski (remember, the person who took over $6,000,000 out of the market and in theory is responsible for corporate governance) looking around the boardroom and asking, Were you the anonymous source? Who’s going to put up a hand and say, Yeah, you caught me, I was the one who lied to the reporter. The company’s position is, nope, none of us was an anonymous source, nothing to see here, move along.

Additional info. Stockhouse manages a fairly robust bulletin board for public companies. Half of the time the content from users is personal theories, half of the time it’s correct, half the time it’s unintelligible ranting. (If you think the contents at Stockhouse is a little wacky, try Hot Copper out of Australia. Those users have a few kangas loose in the top paddock.) One user (Baylee) posted, “I also hear that there is an investigation going on and not only with Giga Metals but with Anthony himself. I also heard that he defrauded the company and paid the journalist secretly and Mark was involved.”

Minimal credibility to that. Too vague, no details, no source credited.

But this user Gorddino? Sources and details:

“I reported Giga at the time to the OSC and IIROC by filling out there form and I also sent a link from Mr Perry’s article. I believe that was his name….On the form I misspelled my email address but my phone number was there. I got a call about 10 days later form a woman at the BCSC office and she told me that the OSC transferred it to them as there in charge even though they trade on the venture because there based in BC. We got talking for over 30 minutes. She was very pleasant and she told me a few things and what her thoughts were with the info I had given..Don’t want to say what she exactly said but she then got my right email address and sent me a letter with a file number.”

This user? Credibility. A betting person would put money on the investigation prop.

And the stock price continues to erode. The stink associated with the scam is part of it, but the arm’s length shareholders just can’t catch a break. On October 28, the company issued a press release about its Preliminary Economic Assessment. Look it up for yourself and make your own judgment. To my eye, it’s a disaster – the cratering stock price seems to agree. An eye-catching piece from the press release: “Industry standard processing with current smelting and refining charges delivers pre-tax IRR of 6.3% at base case pricing of US$7.50/lb Ni and 9.4% at ESG-premium pricing case of US$8.50/lb Ni”. In other words, it ain’t ever going to make money, so who would ever finance this? Hence the diving stock price.

Comment by calgaryfine on Nov 04, 2020 2:47pm
Instead of selective section posting, should have posted the article in its entirety.  The replies are more interesting. https://investorintel.com/market-analysis/market-analysis-intel/shareholders-suffer-on-reuters-anonymous-tesla-tip-while-insiders-hit-the-lottery/
Comment by NSPfacts on Nov 05, 2020 12:56pm
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Comment by PeterMClausi on Nov 09, 2020 9:25am
Good morning. I'm the author or that article. Happy to aswer any questions.
Comment by Baylee on Nov 09, 2020 7:35pm
hi Peter. I heard from Toronto that Anthony will be served with papers with fraud. Im not sure if its true but I heard from a broker in Toronto. The stock will slide into the .20s before year's end. Your thoughts. Thank you Obviously, the Turnagain mine is not economical viable for the unforseen future. Anthony and Mark knew this, hence the fraud so they can cash out millions.
Comment by GigaMetals69 on Nov 09, 2020 9:57pm
Give me a break. You heard from some random broker? Let the price fall into the $.20's. Will give all of us who see the great future Giga Metals has a chance to average down to free money!!
Comment by PeterMClausi on Nov 10, 2020 11:03am
Mark Jarvis did not sell a single share. The Chair, though, took over six million dollars out of the market. Here's the chart from my original article showing who sold how much. In total these five insiders sucked over $8M out of the market.
Comment by Rm90090 on Nov 10, 2020 3:39pm
Hi Peter, I am a Giga investor (albeit I invested recently after the price came down again). I have a few questions and I wanted to see if you had any insight. 1) These executives that you listed - do we know anything about their involvement with the company after they profited? Especially Milewski.  2) Has there been any link established between WHEN the Reuters writer found out ...more  
Comment by PeterMClausi on Nov 10, 2020 7:50pm
Hi, there. Thanks for your thoughts. Here's what I'm thinking. 1. All the insiders who sold at elevated pricing continue to be with Giga 2. There is a flaw in your question 2. "Has there been any link established between WHEN the Reuters writer found out about Giga talking to Tesla?"  Your question assumes Giga Metals was EVER in any serious discussions with Tesla. The ...more  
Comment by GigaMetals69 on Nov 10, 2020 10:16pm
My question is, what are your qualifications Peter M Clausi? Anybody can write articles and publish them on the internet nowadays. What makes you so special from everybody else? I'm not telling you to stop worrying 24/7 about any "alleged insider trading" with Giga Metals, but if something was going to happen with the SEC wouldn't it have happened already? Besides Malewski the ...more  
Comment by LiveStreamss on Nov 12, 2020 1:42am
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Comment by Gordinno on Nov 12, 2020 11:55am
Your exactly right...If the story was false insiders knew it was coming out and implicit in it..if story was true insiders were not allowed to sell...Also there was a pic of a Tesla Giga factory on there website which was taken down.....I was told by someone from BCSC ,and these were excact words...Looks like a scam or some other wrong doing.
Comment by LiveStreamss on Nov 13, 2020 12:36am
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Comment by Gentlep1 on Nov 13, 2020 4:17am
All fellow investors in Giga Metals who suffered a loss due to the scam(Giga &Tesla deal rumor) I filed a complaint to British Columbia Securities Commission and enclosed the supporting documents justifying the loss I have suffered! In order for our voice to be heard and BCSC to take action against the fraud, it is recommended that all investors who suffered a loss to do the same. The more ...more  
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