RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Update to Apollon partnership is pretty big news Absolutely Purevap QRR 4N Silicong to SoG Si is definitely going to be sensational as time progresses. But the amazing low hanging fruit of Si nano for EV mkt and other applications is really mind boggling and as you stated the margins are going to be ridiculous. Purevap NSiR focus is the Golden Goose. Hydrogen application now...is wow!
Multi facet/dimensional company like PYR.
We are truly sitting on 2 investment unicorns that I believe by this time next year the world will start to understand. The ones who get it now....will be standing mighty tall :)
MazerRR wrote: Agreed 100%
The Solar business will eventually pan out. Silicon for the battery market is just a much greater value proposition at the moment (the margins are going to be ridiculous), and it’s an application that needed to be addressed now.
Whereas, the remaining R&D time requirement to get to solar silicon (according to Bernard, it seems like at least 1+ more years) + the dropping value at the time of polysilicon (Solar grade Si; which by the way has shot back up to $12 USD spot price from $7-8!!), also incentivised the switch in focus. Upgrading the PUREVAP QRR 4N Silicon to SoG Si using Apollon’s proprietary process has all the markings to be commercially successful, especially if you consider the extensive experience of Apollon in the solar field & their patents… they’re just pushing it to a later date.
thesabbathlife wrote: Please don't misguided and discourage invetors. The Gennao System has passed all French Military testing and has been approved for commercial production. HPQ will have their own operational Gennao System by December, ready for demonstration and available for orders. I can guarantee the French Military is ready to put their order in as they were the ones who approached Apollon to develop such technology. By December, HPQ will be accepting orders from North American Clients. You do not know who has orders in Europe and the rest of the world as Apollon is a private company. Solar silicon is also not out of the picture either, it requires 3-5yrs of development to be approved for testing and as soon as Gen 3 QRR is operational (Q4 2020), Apollon will continue their development of solar silicon panels with PUREVAP silicon as more material and time is required for testing and development. Lastly HPQ is only a silicon material provider for both Hydrogen and Silicon Anodes for Lithium-ion batteries. Both industry manufacturers will be purchasing our Silicon Materials as soon as Gen2 NSiR is operational as our material is required for their progress and development and will have been teased with our free high value, low cost, low emission samples from Dec 2020.
MidtownGuy wrote: Good release and a good video by George on Agoraacom, but let's slow the horses on this. This is a fantastic new market, but it's way down the road. There's no finished product, no orders, and no sales. George himself states it's not like sales are gonna start happening in December. Both Apollon and HPQ will have to work to create the market demand for this net new product idea. French military will likely be the first, but that's obvoiusly not soon.
Gotta admit I was a little surprised that in the Agoracom video, George stated "solar didn't pan out", so their existing work with Apollon on solar grade silicon didn't succeed, at least in the short term. I'd never seen any mention of this before, so the extension notice kinda buried that while at the same time showing fruit from the corporate arrangement.
The extension of the Apollon relationship is good especially from an R&D partnership, and it shows that while working together on one thing they can sometimes come up with another.
The short term bet and the most obvious in terms of soonest to market is clearly now battery. The hydrogen is farther away; hydrogen is a fast trending market so this is good.
BCONTVentures wrote: Absolutely the decimal point in today's share price will be shifted to the right. This NR is huge news!
Great work Bernard and Team at HPQ Silicon, the Team at Apollon Solar, and Peter and Team at PyroGenesis!
Exciting times!
Long and Strong in HPQ Silicon!
developbc wrote: After re reading everything...I'm convinced more than ever the decimal point in today's share price will be shifted to the right. I remember saying that in the spring about Pyrogenesis sp and it sure came true. There is just too much incredible disruptive tech going on that's about to enter and shake massive industry mkts.
Long and strong HPQ!!
developbc wrote: Thanks MazerRR as always. Going to be absolutely incredible!
The addition of manufacturing hydrogen by hydrolysis to our collaboration opens up a new and unique business opportunity that could represent a second multibillion-dollar addressable marketfor the PUREVAPTM Nano Silicon (Si) Reactor (“NSiR”) nanopowders.” MazerRR wrote: Today’s update to Apollon partnership is pretty big news IMO:
- HPQ’s partnership has grown with Apollon, in that it is not only a research collaboration between them for production of porous silicon, but now includes Hydrogen and is moving towards the commercial side quicker than anticipated with the distribution & sales agreement of Apollon’s Gennao H2 system & powders in North America. There is now an excellent chance HPQ is generating revenue by this year, much earlier than previously expected (the start of Gen2 NSiR or mid 2021).
- HPQ and Apollon will explore the technical & commercial potential of using silicon nanopowders made using PUREVAP NSiR & porous silicon nanopowders made from PUREVAP QRR silicon (2N-4N) on the Gennao H2 system.
- HPQ will be sending samples to Apollon of silicon nanopowders to test on their H2 system in December, along with samples to many battery manufacturers & research institutions.
- HPQ and Apollon are also sending porous silicon nanopowder samples to end users (battery manufacturers & research institutions) in December.
- The newest extension of the agreement lasts until Dec 31, 2020, however, I see these agreements continuing after this and also adapting and growing in scope as the PUREVAP family continues to evolve and move closer to commercial readiness (December is a big inflection point for HPQ). The next one should also coincide with a long-term commercial agreement regarding Apollon’s products that use nano silicon such as the Gennao H2.
- Apollon’s research with HPQ to produce porous silicon (wafers & nanopowders) hasn’t been focused on much here, but porous silicon is a HUGE field of study; the applications of porous silicon number far more than just Hydrogen production & battery anodes. Bernard hinted towards a few of these applications in Agoracom interviews.
Here are some of the
Applications of Porous silicon:
Those that Bernard has mentioned:
- Anode material for rechargeable lithium-ion batteries
- Hydrogen generation and storage
- Drug delivery
- Oil spill cleanup
The many other applications being studied for porous silicon:
- Optoelectronics & Photoelectronics
- Acoustics
- Cosmetics
- Electronics
- Solar cells
- Micro-fuel cells
- Gene therapy (including Cancer treatment)
- Chemical and biological sensors (detection of proteins, DNA, pH, drug discovery, single viruses, glucose, arrays for parallel molecule detection & gas sensors)
- Bioimaging
- Bioactive surfaces
- Used as host and template material for fabricating composites & hybrid materials with other metals, semiconductors, organic substances
- Porous-Silicon based microreactors
- Porous-Silicon based Supercapacitors
- Thermoelectric devices
- Explosive devices
If you want to read more about these applications and about porous silicon in general, look into the books: “
Porous Silicon: From Formation to Application, Volumes 1-3 by G. Korotcenkov) or (
Handbook of Porous Silicon,. 2nd edition, Springer International, by Leigh Canham). Most of the applications listed above are taken from those references.