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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum HPQ Silicon Inc V.HPQ

Alternate Symbol(s):  HPQFF

HPQ Silicon Inc. (HPQ) is a Canada-based technology company specializing in green engineering of silica and silicon-based materials. The Company is engaged in developing, with the support of technology partners PyroGenesis Canada Inc. (PyroGenesis) and Novacium SAS, new green processes to make the critical materials needed to reach net zero emissions. Its activities are centered around the... see more

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HPQ Silicon Inc > Approached by gigafactory
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Post by Thinkbigsti69 on Mar 15, 2024 11:56am

Approached by gigafactory

@ordos Battery Materials
 
* Things are accelerated, timelines are expected to shorten
There are just a few manufacturers of silicon material for batteries located mostly in China. Maybe two or three in NA or EU, huge reshoring advantage for HPQ.
* Eastern NA green energy advantage and key ingredient is energy
     - Hydro electricity
     - Carbon capture with QRR
* Bernard is very busy lately, cannot even reply to some emails the same day
* "Carbon bomb" in Europe
* Silicon metal production is the largest emitter of CO2 per kg of material
* You essentially need to run your EV for 20+ years to offset the CO2 footprint of making that car. So reducing footprint for all your base ingredients is very important
* Conversations with industry participants often are around the carbon taxes and the green advantage of HPQ's materials
* Approached by gigafactory owners that say they would need 1000 tons of this material per year for their gigafactory(ies), how much can we offtake, these are the conversations now
* Deals could be made in advance of some gigafactories being finished in 1.5-2 years
* Graphite based lithium ion batteries are here to stay for many years to come
* 18650 battery type is very well known, used for many years, used in many EVs
* The fact that the degradation WITH the silicon follows the same or lesser degradation pattern as 100% graphite is very promising
* The next steps now how are we going to manufacture these materials, not even the cycles anymore
* 100, 300, 500 cycles are the next milestones
* This is just the first iteration of the material, Sila is at their 38,000-th iteration
* Looking at other variations of the materials to start iterations of each variation
* Looking to make physically bigger (than 18650 type) battery tests
* Key message: starting to come to full fruition, there is a lot of interest
Comment by Mostlyserious on Mar 15, 2024 11:40pm
Sila, 80,000 iterations and 12 years.  Supplying Panasonic batteries that some Tesla's use.  Ready to start scaled production with batteries that kick butt of existing ones.  Group14 another one in the US with advanced technologies. Sounds like they will be supplying materials that greatly outperform what is out there so I am not sure how meaningful or current testing ...more  
Comment by KrapShoet on Mar 16, 2024 9:56am
Are you suggesting that Sila has had a battery with Silicon for 12 years that has undergone 80,000 iterations? I ask because the patents were issued in 2019. I believe what you're suggesting is that the 80,000 iterations is against a 100% graphene based battery.   
Comment by Mostlyserious on Mar 16, 2024 10:50am
Dec 12, 2023 article and quote by the CEO G. Berdichevsky.  The article was not really centered on the details of the journey.  BT compared their first iteration as successful compared to how many Sila went through.  The quote speaks to Sila's number.  Does it matter?  I don't think so.  It is about where the companies are today, what they have to offer and ...more  
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