Wow using the word bitter on a century investor Marine , this is how odd you sound and forgive me I you feel I am wrong. You talk about an investor from being bitter over what took place with century, how would you describe the last several years with ICG as an investor in one word. I think its safe to say the word disappointment would be natural and maybe even the word bitter could be used. Odd how you classify ones thought on a person who just does not see the positive of century or ICG ... Come on Caravan I wait for your sheriff position to ICG to come in soon after this post