RE:Management has to be the problem Candy kid may have a point on what he noted. Perhaps the skills needed in this type of market needs more than just the ability to raise capital and spend it. As I mentioned over and over , good news ,bad news , no news nothing really seems to change the share price. This has been an issue with ICG and once more going back to what I said, if good news does not make the share price raise or market reflections or gold prices or management change , than what will and this is why I said , sustainability on a spike will be hard in my eyes and the more shares that they print will add to the troubles , as for what a roll back marine talks about will confine the range spikes further , just on talks.....