PRE"S investment is much higher, refer to Waiting still's analysis, they are down huge on paper. In order to win with junior stocks today, they must have a monster opportunity. Too many juniors have minor opportunities. CGX has the monster league play written all over it. Today's selling price means zippo as it is not a margin stock, so those that own it, do so without leverage. I'm not privy to the shareholder lists but lots of folks must have stayed on board for years and traded around the edges. I have, but probably net net, i'm down over all based on today's price. The crazy way markets work today, it is a fact of life. You will enjoy our ride once it becomes in play again next year. Remember, I mentioned prior, if PRE has a book loss for very long, they will take major write down to the tune of over 100 million, they won't do that I doubt. I also don't believe they will wait five years to exercise their $1.70 wts (35 Million of those) for much longer than another six months. Richard russell , one of the oldest letter writers in the market game has mentioned many times, if you want to get rich, find something you are positive about and have the balls to bet big. Obviously, there is a downside to that stratedgy, we have lived through that already, now is the bottom. Do your own DD. Am i disappointed in the price, sure, but I think i recognize the opportunity just like PRE did. 2014 is going to be fun for CGX shareholders.