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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum POET Technologies Inc. V.PTK

Alternate Symbol(s):  POET

POET Technologies Inc brings solutions for faster and more cost-efficient data transfers. Its proprietary Optical Interposer is the foundation of an elegant platform that provides seamless integration of electronic and photonic devices into a single module. The company has multiple customers who build next-generation products for Data Centers, Telecoms, Artificial Intelligence, Internet of... see more

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POET Technologies Inc. > Options repricing
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Post by lscfa on May 22, 2024 2:48pm

Options repricing

Some of these 10 year options date back to 2017.  Holders had opportunities to exercise them in the money but didn't. Greedy SOBs wanted to defer paying taxes as long as possible. Now shareholders must pay for their lousy market timing.
Comment by lscfa on May 22, 2024 2:53pm
Correction: Some options issued 2016 and still unexercised 
Comment by wintersun10 on May 22, 2024 3:05pm
Or they knew there was no upside...
Comment by lscfa on May 22, 2024 3:41pm
If options had been exercised when in the money (say 2021) the proceeds to the co. would have been $22M cdn and employees would have made money and paid some taxes. This would have avoided several recent financings.
Comment by MISTERFB on May 22, 2024 3:54pm
The trouble is that statements made  by the CEO led people to believe that significant news was just around the corner.  Rather than sell into a profit, people held on anticipating the stock would spike up at anytime which was a mistake.
Comment by daytrader18939 on May 22, 2024 4:05pm
I agree with you MISTERFB
Comment by lscfa on May 22, 2024 6:27pm
Not logical. If employees are anticipating big developments they exercise options now to minimize the tax due (which is deemed employment income and = current price - exercise price) and hold the stock, not the options, for capital gains. 
Comment by MISTERFB on May 22, 2024 8:45pm
So you are saying if you think big developments are on the way and therefore share price appreciation,  then it's better to dump the options early before they go higher in order to reduce taxes ???..lol.  Profits on paper trump taxes owed. The exercise price is set no matter when they are exercised.  The only variable is at what price they get sold at and the taxes owed. 
Comment by lscfa on May 22, 2024 8:57pm
Do. More dd...     Exercise now  Exercise in 2 yrs Options  10000 10000 Market price 4 10 Exercise price $2.00 $2.00  ...more  
Comment by MISTERFB on May 22, 2024 9:04pm
Cost base in the first column should be 4 not 2 .
Comment by lscfa on May 22, 2024 9:05pm
Corrected table...     Exercise now  Exercise in 2 yrs Options  10000 10000 Market price 4 10 Exercise price $2.00 $2.00  ...more  
Comment by MISTERFB on May 22, 2024 8:57pm
And if such employees anticipate big developments and trade based on this knowledge, isn't this considered as insider information ????
Comment by lscfa on May 22, 2024 9:01pm
Hey, you are the one that proposed it.... "The trouble is that statements made  by the CEO led people to believe that significant news was just around the corner."  
Comment by MISTERFB on May 22, 2024 9:06pm
The reality was that those who exercised their options should have waited as they got screwed by the downturn in the share price plus may have missed out in the repricing of those options
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