Post by
Rockafellow2 on Oct 19, 2023 10:40am
Beware of auction
Crystal is first in line $?B then Conoco $8B which leaves little for rest of creditors. Value of citgo refineries etc between $10B and & $13B at most.
Courts usually go for the smallest amounts percentage wise and not the full amount which is supposition. Conoco may only be allowed to purchase certificates or paper not actual cash so perhaps we only get paper certificates not cash.
50 cents a share on Monday would be fair value.
Imo
Comment by
CAinPlap on Oct 19, 2023 11:35am
A previous post claimed RML was 7th in order of priority behind approximately 3.5 billion in other claims so if true, lots of meat on the bone for us hopefully.
Comment by
RIDER1975 on Oct 19, 2023 12:14pm
As far as I know, Conoco has two awards, with 2-3 bn at the front of the prior list, their 8 bn claim has nt got attachment yet. Even if they got, that shoildnt be prior to RML or GRZ. Moreovet, CITGO s value may be far more, than the previously stated 10-13 bb, as they made 3-4 bn profit only last year.
Comment by
Rockafellow2 on Oct 19, 2023 3:29pm
The 10 to 13 $B is according to a July post I read that says judge spark valued citco assets no more than the higher value so I am going for that amount not the inflated supposed value. Courts access things lower than expected in general. Only mo! Maybe I will be proved wrong ... Just saying ... 50 cents is a go for now scenario.
Comment by
RIDER1975 on Oct 19, 2023 3:55pm
Some article mentioned that 10-13 bn value. Buz recently on a court hearing 30-40 bn was mentioned. With their earnings that sounds more plausable. What do you think, when will be knowm the ecact ultimate prior list, that cannot be changed anymore? Oct 23. or in january ?
Comment by
Rockafellow2 on Oct 19, 2023 4:07pm
I think Gunner on CEO.ca has indicated correctly the recent share value to be equivalent to a 26cent bond that will mature within one year from now at 100% or above $1.50. I don't want to wait a year for 280% increase ... I could be dead by then ...ha, ha ... Justing saying he knows more of the situation than me.
Comment by
HarfanddesNeiges on Oct 19, 2023 4:43pm
2 US$ per share would be fair. GLTA
Comment by
rupertpupkin on Oct 19, 2023 6:13pm
The creditors who don't yet have a writ of attachment have until April 11th to be included. https://www.reuters.com/article/citgo-auction-bidding-idUSL1N3BH3BN
Comment by
slappyjo on Oct 19, 2023 6:44pm
Yeah, forget what the professional analysts say. Let's believe an anonymous person on the internet with a PC and internet connection.