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Theralase Technologies Inc. > Theralase Is still Flying Under the Radar
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Post by Eoganacht on Jul 08, 2022 1:39pm

Theralase Is still Flying Under the Radar

I guess the 29 cent stock price is a pretty good clue. TLD-1433 as a potential bladder cancer treatment still has such a low profile that the most prominent member of Theralase's Medical and Science Advisory Board, Dr. Ashish Kamat makes no mention of TLD1433 in his recent interview about bladder cancer at the EAU222 conference, even after being specifically asked about "new kids on the block". But, as ScienceFirst is always emphasizing, it's all about the data. As our data becomes increasingly persuasive I trust Dr. Kamat will begin to include TLD1433 when he talks about  "exciting drugs that we should all be looking at." On the plus side, he does acknowledge that a safe intravesical treatment is a better choice then Keytruda (pembrolizumab).

"I was part of the group that got pembrolizumab approved when it went in front of the FDA. But you also have to remember that the efficacy of pembrolizumab is roughly about 20%, right? So when we talk to our patients and give them the option of a 20% response rate with a systemic drug that potentially has toxicity, versus intravesical therapies such as combination chemotherapy which is the defacto standard in the US, patients make the decision that's right for them and tend to choose the intravesical therapy. I don't think it's just a urology - medical oncology thing, I think it's truly based on the data."

EAUTV: Profs. Morgan Roupret and Ashish Kamat discuss Bladder Cancer

At 6 minutes 37 seconds:

Prof. Morgan Roupret:
 
We have also some new kids on the block in the pipeline can you let us know what you feel is going to be relevant for the patient and the physicians within the next few months?
 
Prof. Ashish Kamat
 
So I think one big thing is the nadofaragene gene therapy and that was studied and reported and the data seem fairly good. They're at least as good as pembrolizumab and much less toxicity that drug unfortunately has not yet been approved by the FDA partly because of manufacturing issues and not any trouble with the data so hopefully that's one. 
 
The other one that's really exciting is the N803 - the Kolb study which was reported at GI ASCO and ASCO which is BCG plus the IL-15 superagonist and the response rates there seem almost too good to be true with very low toxicity. So clearly that is something that we're all excited about that has been filed with the FDA and we're waiting to see if it gets approved.
 
CG0070 which is oncolytic virus in combination with pembrolizumab again has been reported at ASCO and GI ASCO. Roger Li is the PI on that and that again has very high efficacy rates at six months and even nine months in patients that have been analyzed so that's another very exciting drug that we should all be looking at.
 
Comment by fredgoodwinson on Jul 08, 2022 2:28pm
Very politely put Eog.
Comment by charlierock on Jul 08, 2022 3:03pm
I'm guessing that Dr. Kamat did not mention TLD 1433 as an exciting new drug when asked, probably because it hasn't been approved yet. But I bet he wanted to.
Comment by DJDawg on Jul 08, 2022 3:29pm
I'm not sure but if Dr. Kamat is on the advisory boards for a company he may be extra cautious about raising it while the data is still incomplete. I don't know which other companies he advises but I could see it looking suspicous if he says that he is excited about a tiny canadian company's drug, before it is really ready for the full press. Sometimes you have to overcompensate to ...more  
Comment by Eoganacht on Jul 08, 2022 3:30pm
The other drugs he mentioned haven't been approved yet either, although nadofaragene and N803 + BCG have at least applied. We're not quite there yet. We'll see what he has to say in early 2023.
Comment by Rumpl3StiltSkin on Jul 08, 2022 8:00pm
Yeah, what's up with Dr. K. ??
Comment by Yajne on Jul 09, 2022 12:46am
my 'spidey senses' have been tingling for a couple years on Dr.Kamat. How impartial is he with respect to all the various trials that he's involved? The only quote I have ever seen from him is Ph1b ending when he said something to the effect "it might be just what the doctor ordered" Other than than little bit, he has been completely absent on any support for TLD1433 IMHO. My ...more  
Comment by Infinity on Jul 09, 2022 6:42am
I agree Yajne,  Dr. Kamat is on the Medical Advisory board in name only.  I have not come across any mention of TLD 1433 other than "it might be just what the doctor ordered".  I wonder if the members of the Medical Advisory board, even remotely, have any skin in the game?
Comment by Eoganacht on Jul 09, 2022 4:37pm
To be fair to Dr. Kamat, his role as a member of Theralase's Medical and Scientific Advisory Board is not to promote the adoption of TLD1433 pdt or to make public pronouncements about it. Rather, as he himself stated, when he joined the board in 2014: "My role will be to provide the clinical expertise and to work with my fellow MSAB members to develop a clinical protocol for Theralase ...more  
Comment by CancerSlayer on Jul 09, 2022 11:06pm
  A look at the performance of these new kids on the block:  12 month CR data for BCG-unresponsive CIS.... Nadofaragene Firadenovec = 24% N-803 + BCG = 40% CG0070 (as a single-agent therapeutic) = 27.5% *All of the above are intravesical agents.   Both patients & the FDA will have a difficult time overlooking the fact that we are a diamond in the rough...a ...more  
Comment by Eoganacht on Jul 09, 2022 11:47pm
Good post CancerSlayer. Puts things in perspective.
Comment by Rumpl3StiltSkin on Jul 10, 2022 9:34am
I think 1433 will match or beat these numbers at the 450 day mark. 360 days after the second, 'maintenance' dose. As a standalone treatment, high safety, low/no side effects. The market should catch on to this or a few of the Pharmas, at least. :-)
Comment by ScienceFirst on Jul 10, 2022 11:52am
Eoganacht ... Indeed, Dr. Kamat's initial mandate was not to promote our drug.  But to advise Theralase in the design of the Ph. 2. Contrary to the other drugs mentioned (N-803 with BCG, ...), these drugs have completed their trials, which is not the case of TLT yet.  But for sure, if we obtain Breakthrough designation, this will be much easier for Dr. Kamat to put things into ...more  
Comment by Eoganacht on Jul 10, 2022 3:15pm
Yes, when Dr. Kamat spoke about "new kids on the block", he was referring to bladder cancer drugs which may well get FDA approval in the next few months and thereupon become an option in treating bladder cancer patients. Theralase will not even be applying for breakthrough designation and  possibly AA until the end of the year. So a mention of TLD1433 here would have been premature.
Comment by Oilminerdeluxe on Jul 11, 2022 2:38pm
Anyone wager a guess how many new patients will see 270 and 360 updates next update? A handful at least, right? 
Comment by robertshaw on Jul 11, 2022 2:40pm
9 for 360 days cancer free, and 14 for 270 days cancer free.
Comment by Oilminerdeluxe on Jul 11, 2022 2:54pm
Would be wonderful, thanks.
Comment by robertshaw on Jul 11, 2022 2:56pm
I still remember the day, about 3 and half years ago, when Blowjobjoe want to bet against me regarding I deemed the 5th patient, after his 270 days cancer free achieved, it's almost certin he would get 360 days cancer free for the immune system built-up in his body...., soon, it did turn out I Win the bet... (yet, Blowjobjoe's still kept bashing this technology)... But, the thing is, we ...more  
Comment by StevenBirch on Jul 11, 2022 3:08pm
The nightmare is almost over, this share price has nothing to do with the real value once the proper amount of data is in. I don't know how they will make out when this does explode but I hope not very well.
Comment by fredgoodwinson on Jul 11, 2022 3:18pm
3009 days` held - maybe as few as 50 until we know whether it's all been worthwhile.
Comment by Yajne on Jul 12, 2022 1:58am
Sooo, I hear that Dr Kamat will not (or cannot) comment on a trail until that trial is complete. I don't believe that is true, I remember Dr Kamat commenting on various trials even while they were still in progress, although I can't find the specific link. Unless somebody can prove otherwise, I continue to believe that Dr Kamat mentioned other 'in progress trials'. This is ...more  
Comment by ScienceFirst on Jul 12, 2022 8:13am
Yajne thinks that TLT negociate with Dr. Kamat to have him on its board without understanding what Dr. Kamat can do and when?  Wow!!! I wouldn't rely on Yajne to negotiate anything!  You wonder how this guy interpret things.  Like when he compared COVID-19 to nothing else than a bad flu but then sudedenly panicked when his son ended up spending days in an ICU for couple of weeks ...more  
Comment by Infinity on Jul 12, 2022 8:36pm
Science first,  I agree,  Dr. Kamat is Primarily a Skilled Urological Surgeon.  He does not have to offer a plug on TLD  as a viable alternative BCG unresponsive Bladder cancer patients, every chance that he gets.   By being on the Medical advisory board, he has access to all the data as and when it is available.  He has the knolwedge to interpret whether TLD is ...more  
Comment by Eoganacht on Jul 12, 2022 11:38am
Dr. Kamat can say whatever he wants to say whenever he wants to say it. But when he is talking to another urological oncologist about what is going to be relevant to the bladder cancer patient and physician in the next few months, it should not come as a surprise if he confines his remarks to drugs that have applied to the FDA for approval and could be available for use in the very near future ...more  
Comment by ScienceFirst on Jul 12, 2022 12:37pm
Eoganacht ... You have the proper comprehension of the role of Dr. Kamat.  His role is to advise on treatments that have clear data to comment on.  So far, this not our case yet.  Not to speculate on trends that are not clear enough.   Our time will come, if data dominates.  And 450-days on our first 25 patients should do it.  But we're not there yet. _____ ...more  
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