Packer I don't know if you had a chance to see my post addressed to you in a reply to your reply to Banshee on the provision of medical services are like in Quebec.I did a little research and found it quite enlightening , but it was removed as irrelevant and off topic by some weasel and a wanna be Board Monitor of the Veren site. So be it , l am sure you are smart enough to read it in the SH archives.