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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Long Run Explor Ltd Ord WFREF

"Long Run Exploration Ltd is engaged in the development, exploration and production of oil and natural gas in western Canada."

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Long Run Explor Ltd Ord > Sell all or some.......
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Post by wilwal on Jun 12, 2015 10:13am

Sell all or some.......

....either is a winner for existing shareholders.  

Selling Redwater at a good price will de-risk the company from credit default and push the share price closer to NAV.  Selling all would surely mean they would fetch more than NAV.  Either one will be a big boost to share price.
Comment by Shlinker_ on Jun 12, 2015 10:34am
and what is the estimated NAV now?
Comment by wilwal on Jun 12, 2015 10:39am
As you would be aware, NAV is a moving target as O&G prices move, but LRE NAV would be in the ballpark of $1.30 - $1.50.
Comment by ppp on Jun 12, 2015 10:54am
base case NAV is at just over 4 dollars at itrade they have a target of 1.75 I would think  Nav is around 3 a share and they would get taken out at 1.50 Everyone likes a deal.
Comment by theman0 on Jun 12, 2015 11:10am
Everyone likes a deal?? Who is everyone? Only deal I want to see is the sale of some non-core assets. There will be no takeover of LRE.
Comment by OneStar on Jun 12, 2015 11:32am
Theman0 I agree with you. We likely have seen the bottom in oil. Natgas looks good in NA. Lre has more value then $1.50 I expect them to book an additional 30 mboe to the reserves, when the waterflood in peace river is in full swing. Either late this year or early next. If they could sell Redwater at a decent price that would work for me as well. Os
Comment by ppp on Jun 12, 2015 12:04pm
Tell it to the dummies that are selling.  
Comment by rivermoney on Jun 12, 2015 12:09pm
I agree PPP. Everyone should be buying at this point. News will be out and by the looks of things should be very positive.
Comment by bullchart on Jun 12, 2015 12:24pm
Some of you guys, really. There will never be a takeout and some comments like that. I am here to inform you every company is forsale at the right price. It may happen or it may not, it is just nice to have a number in mind in case it should happen. I have been in on two of these oils that I never thought would get bought out. But guess what, they did. Nobody want to talisman at $4-5 dollars there ...more  
Comment by theman0 on Jun 12, 2015 12:44pm
I know it is not going to happen. What will happen is a reduction of the debt/cash flow ratio to roughly 2x. This reduction is what is being anticipated by the market, which is also allowing the fear of debt to be less of a concern.
Comment by emmitt on Jun 12, 2015 12:53pm
To get a reduction in the debt to cash flow, either debt gets reduced or cash flow increases. To get to 2x they almost have to sell assets as I can't see cash flow increasing greatly right now. 
Comment by theman0 on Jun 12, 2015 1:02pm
Where you been emmitt? We have been discussing the fact that they have assets for sale which will reduce debt and thus the debt/cash flow ratio. LRE has also stated that they will spend $50 million of anticipated cash flow of $150 million, of which the $100 million will be used to pay down debt.
Comment by emmitt on Jun 12, 2015 1:09pm
I agree totally. I thought you were suggesting they weren't going to sell assets and I coudn't see them getting the debt/cash flow ratio down to 2x without a sale.   I took a little break from the bullboard. I like to have discussions and share ideas with the bulls and the bears. The board got a little crazy for a while with foolishness.  Purchased another 10k shares this week ...more  
Comment by Reflect on Jun 12, 2015 2:49pm
Printing a piece taken from Matt Smith’s article from 2/12/15 in The Motely Fool. LRE is stable & slightly increasing when so many stocks are falling. Investors are finally beginning to see the great value in LRE – it’s that simple. Who’s selling (short coverage, idiots settling for peanuts, those easily scared & fooled etc.) it ...more  
Comment by VentureCapital3 on Jun 12, 2015 4:03pm
"...assuming an oil price of US$52.50... LRE has a value of $3.20 per share..." What are the other asumptions??? Proved and producing oil reserves were 15M on 31 December 2014. Total oil reserve were 40M. Most are not developped and if you consider the CAPEX will not have any value at US$52.50. LRE has also LNG and NG reserves (some developped and some not). 85M is more like a mix of oil ...more  
Comment by Reflect on Jun 12, 2015 8:01pm
Stick with Spartan Energy. A measly 9,600 BOD/d  with 264 million shares out. The Nutcase & John O'Connell got you in the palms of their hands. Didn't you hear what john O'Connell said; a whopping 200 million dollars for 9,600 BOE/d (98% oil). All I can say, John O'Connell missed his calling - he should have been a clown & had the nutcase for his sidekick. He pretty ...more  
Comment by Reflect on Jun 12, 2015 8:45pm
Venture Capital 3:  If Matt Smith’s numbers are fabricated & you can prove this with evidence from the SEDAR Filings by all means show us & then you can file a complaint with the SEC that LRE mgt. & their accountants have deliberately & with intent; deceived share holders by falsifying numbers. In other words; the onus is on you Venture Capital 3 because I don’t believe you ...more  
Comment by VentureCapital3 on Jun 13, 2015 9:01am
You're not helping LRE doing that. Matt Smith's numbers??? Witch numbers? My point is that he didn't provide all his assumptions and LRE management has nothing to do with Matt Smith's numbers anyway... Regarding SEDAR, my numbers were from LRE financial statements. I don't think Mr Smith tried to deceive you Reflect. I think he just doesn't know that there is a difference ...more  
Comment by Reflect on Jun 13, 2015 10:12am
My point is that you Venture Capital3 are a basher and Matt Smith does know a lot more than you. Venture Capitlal3 you are just a "self-made" prima donna. Probably a Spartan Energy Loser. Mike Smith never decievied me - I have exposed you for the two-faced piece of excrement you are. Take your fishy mouth & go to a different board where it will be appreceiated. We investors of LRE ...more  
Comment by VentureCapital3 on Jun 13, 2015 10:34am
"We investors of LRE"??? I'm long in LRE and you don't represent me. I think you represent only yourself, and you don't do that very well.
Comment by Reflect on Jun 14, 2015 6:50pm
Reflect wrote: Printing a piece taken from Matt Smith’s article from 2/12/15 in The Motely Fool. LRE is stable & slightly increasing when so many stocks are falling. Investors are finally beginning to see the great value in LRE – it’s that simple. Who’s selling (short coverage, idiots settling for peanuts, those ...more  
Comment by Shlinker_ on Jun 14, 2015 10:53pm
You post like a made-man Reflect. You're so selling shares its unreal.
Comment by wilwal on Jun 14, 2015 10:59pm
If Reflect is trying to convince people to get out of LRE, he couldn't do a better job.  He sure chases participants off this board. I'm in the green on this stock Reflux.  How about you?
Comment by Reflect on Jun 15, 2015 7:24am
Wilwal & your little friend in your head Shlinker are nothing but Spartan Energy Brainwashed monkeys. You lie, twist, distort  to decieve small investors into believing LRE mgt. is doing a lousy job & to seduce people into selling at a loss. You want to steal the agenda. No person invests in a stock & then bashes it & critizes mgt. unless they are a shorter & want to ruin ...more  
Comment by thefabergegg on Jun 16, 2015 10:35pm
@Reflect - how many times do I have to tell you to take your meds? have you filled out that don't short my stock form yet? here it is again, pls forward it asap.  
Comment by VentureCapital3 on Jun 15, 2015 8:05am
His friend John was snooty, but he was providing accurate statements most of the time. Anyway, I really don't think people will buy or sell large amount of LRE's stock based on what is writen here... Regarding SCP, I have to say that I agree with Reflect comment but not regarding the SCP's analyst. It make sens to me to have LRE at $1.5 with WTI at $70.
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