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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum FormerXBC Inc XEBEQ

Xebec Adsorption Inc designs, engineers, and manufactures products that are used for purification, separation, dehydration, and filtration equipment for gases and compressed air. The company operates in three reportable segments: Systems, Corporate and other, and Support. Its product lines are natural gas dryers for natural gas refueling stations, compressed gas filtration, biogas purification,... see more

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FormerXBC Inc > More details needed on impact of legacy projects
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Post by Motownwing on May 12, 2022 9:45am

More details needed on impact of legacy projects

Considering their technical leadership position and comparable benchmarks, their GM% should at a minimum in the 27-30% range (20-25% on systems and 40-50% on aftermarket activities incl spare parts). That level of GM will be required for them to reach their strat plan goal of adjusted EBITDA of 8-10% by fiscal year 2024. For the last quarter, the gap is huge between a GM of 11% and let's say 28% on sales of 41 M$ =  gap of 7 M$.
IMO, they would need to detail the loss provision they had to take on the legacy projects versus GM performance on the rest of their sales of non-legacy stuff. It is fairly obvious that the operational performance issues run deeper than just the 'legacy' projects.
I suspect that they also have a sales pricing issue. Knowing that they have good technology, it is fairly easy to book orders and build backlog if your pricing is too low considering market conditions with crazy inflation. It takes discipline and leadership to sell at a price that will allow you to make money despite the challenging conditions. A huge backlog booked on bad pricing is a recipe for disaster. Hopefully, management will provide enough detailed information today to reassure the market. JIMO GLTA
Comment by Gann999 on May 12, 2022 9:49am
Honestly you have very valid concerns raise your prices xebec if the customers don't like it they can pi ss off and find someone else
Comment by kulewater on May 12, 2022 10:06am
The legacy BGX expenses stem from start-up and commissioning of custom systems. As the company has progressed to containerized and uniform Biostream units the margins will improve moving forward. Until they completely shed the go-live of legacy units it will hamper margins. The good news is that once the units are commissioned it will drive additional service revenues. From my perspective it ...more  
Comment by GARP17 on May 12, 2022 10:14am
Was there still no indication as to when these legacy projects are finished?
Comment by kulewater on May 12, 2022 10:23am
Legacy BGX drag will be increasingly diminished and completely offloaded by end of year.
Comment by tony08 on May 12, 2022 10:48am
Beside the Legacy drag that will be offloaded by end of year,  the results of the $143M contract will only be recognized from mid-year and will continue into 2023. These two events combined should help for the near future. With these poor results, it seems we really need this help....  
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