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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Yappn Corp YPPN

Yappn Corp. delivers real-time language translation products which enable vendors and consumers to communicate freely with one another, each in their own preferred languages. The Company offers a set of tools to engage consumers in approximately 67 languages. The Company translates the words, as well as the context and syntax, thereby ensuring that what is written in one language is translated... see more

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Yappn Corp > FOTOYAPP--A 3RD CHANNEL IN PARALLEL
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Post by banx on Apr 04, 2014 10:42pm

FOTOYAPP--A 3RD CHANNEL IN PARALLEL

To Facebook and Google.
The social media world is all about users & photoshare.
Whatsapp alone shares 500 million photos a day!!!
Fotoyapp creates content around an image using key words.
1 image could translate into a thousand images and beyond.....
Talk about a hot space.
And to think the much maligned CEO of int/yppn invented it.
2014 could turn out to be the year of redemption--BIG redemption.
It may even be the year where the critics are silenced to the point of vanishing permanently.
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BY: Benedict Evans
Whatsapp and $19bn
February 19, 2014
Facebook just bought WhatsApp, paying $16bn in cash and stock ($4bn cash, $12bn stock at current prices) and $3bn in RSUs. WhatsApp has 450m active users, of which 72% are active every day. It has just 32 engineers. And its users share 500m photos a day, which is almost certainly more than Facebook. 
 
This is interesting in all sorts of ways - it illustrates most of the key trends in consumer tech today in one deal. 
 
First, it shows the continued determination of Facebook to be the 'next' Facebook. It's striking to compare the aggressive reaction to disruption shown by Google, Facebook and other leading web companies today with how some of their predecessors a decade ago stumbled and lost their way. 
 
Second, the winner-takes-all dynamics of social on the desktop web do not appear to apply on mobile, and if there are winner-takes-all dynamics for mobile social it's not yet clear what they are. There are four main aspects to this: 
 
Smartphone apps can access your address book, bypassing the need to rebuild your social graph on a new service
They can access your photo library, where uploading photos to different websites is a pain
They can use push notifications instead of relying on emails and on people bothering to check multiple websites
Crucially, they all get an icon on the home screen. 
Any smartphone app is just two taps away - a desktop site can crush a new competitor by adding it as a feature with a new menubar icon but on mobile there isn't room to do that. Mobile tends to favor single-purpose, specialized apps.
 
This has led to an explosion of mobile social apps - last summer I counted over 50 with more than 1m downloads on Google Play. Some sort of consolidation is clearly inevitable but it's much less clear whether we will revert to one or two. The smartphone itself is the social platform and all sorts of different ideas can leverage that, where on the desktop web they'd have needed to leverage Facebook.
 
So It's quite possible mobile social will have lots of services indefinitely. This creates opportunities, but also a pretty basic challenge to Facebook. Partly in response, it paid first 1% of its market value for Instagram and now close to 10% for WhatsApp, taking not dominance but at the least two of the commanding heights of mobile social. That's the right way to think about value, I think - not 'OMG $16bn!", but "is this worth 10% of Facebook?' The deal values WhatsApp users at $35 each (very close to what Google paid for YouTube, incidentally), but the current market cap of Facebook values its MAUs at $140 or so.  
 
Third, the sheer scale of the numbers involved is a good illustration of what the shift to mobile means. I produced a presentation here to try to drive home this point: mobile is the next computing platform and it is several times larger than the desktop internet. There are now roughly the same number of smartphones and PCs on earth - those PCs are mostly shared and immobile or locked-down corporate boxes, while the smartphones are mobile and personal. Meanwhile, the widely-discussed collapse in the cost of creating a startup in the last decade combines with both the much larger scale of mobile and the routes to market and virality offered by mobile platforms to mean that if you're very good (and lucky) you can get to astonishing scale in a short time. This scale is at the heart of the valuations we're starting to see - WhatsApp is probably now sending more messages than the entire global SMS system.  
 
Finally, mobile social apps are not, really, about free SMS. Mobile discovery and acquisition is a mess - it's in a 'pre-pagerank' phase where we lack the right tools and paths to find and discover content and services efficiently. Social apps may well be a major part of this, as I discussed in detail here. These apps have the opportunity to be a third channel in parallel to Google and Facebook.
 
Also, note this tweet from the co-founder. 
 
Comment by banx on Apr 05, 2014 7:14am
In proper perspective. A global linkage into the world of visualization in up to 70 languages. One picture creates/presents a world of opportunity. Why limit yourself? ---------- "Fotoyapp builds on the idea that "a picture is worth a thousand words" by revolutionizing social engagement allowing images and content to be linked to each other and shared instantly, in almost any ...more  
Comment by mbbttfb on Apr 05, 2014 8:55am
I guess banx is the only one who doesn't get just how me too foto yappn is. A two for one train wreck. Good value. 
Comment by mackky on Apr 05, 2014 8:38pm
Not only is it very 'me too', but it also appears they are using 3rd party plugins and marketing Fotoyapp as their own tech. 1.  Go to https://fotoyapp.com/v1/profile.php (BTW, they don't even know how to build a functioning login gate.  It's supposed to be "invitation only", but anyone can view the site by going to the above link). 2.  Click on any ...more  
Comment by banx on Apr 05, 2014 10:03pm
Lol. SocialmediacriticsRnotus.com Absolutely useless Fotoyapp Rocks and is getting ready to rock even more. Just sit tight bashers. Try not to rush a good thing.
Comment by michael on Apr 05, 2014 10:41pm
How can it rocks if it is just a wordpress pluggin?
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