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Noranda Income Fund Unit
NNDIF
Metals & Mining
Industrial Metals & Minerals
Noranda Income Fund is a Canadian based income trust. The fund owns the electrolytic zinc processing facility and ancillary assets located in Salaberry-de-Valleyfield, Quebec. It produces refined zinc metal and by-products from sourced zinc concentrates. The fund's long-term objective is to maximize unitholder value and provide monthly distributions to unitholders.
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on Jan 12, 2023 2:47pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:more re. valuation
If deal goes through, no need to change the board as GC will have full control The offer is outrageously low, very few would be in the money at the current offering.You bet the funds want a much
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RE:RE:RE:more re. valuation
I am a small investor who has held the stock through thick and thin over the last several years and by no means an expert. Here are a few thoughts that I hope someone more qualified could comment on:
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RE:RE:more re. valuation
I spoke with one of the independant directors on Tuesday. He confirmed to me that Glencore was the ONLY takeout option that this board explored. He said they "discused" bankruptcy as well as
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RE:more re. valuation
From a smaller shareholder...thanks to all the "obviously" knowledgeale posters who are close to this situation. Your posts show just how preposterous this situation is and how badly GC has
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RE:more re. valuation
Good post RJK, do you have an accounting background? I don't take the TD analyst seriously as he has, in my experience, always been behind the curve. However, the market clearly
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more re. valuation
a) Over the 5 years 2017 to 2021 Capital Expenditure was $USMillion(47+28.3 + 21.8 +19.6 +16.2) for a total of $US133 Million or ~$Cad 3.65 per unit. b) from the Q3-2022 balance sheet at Sept.30
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on Jan 11, 2023 11:11pm
RE:RE:I really don't understand the low valuations
Thank you. I reluctantly tender my shares at $ 40, lol. Really, no reason why this shouldn't be at 10 once we have a board that works for us...not just the minority shareholder.
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RE:I really don't understand the low valuations
How much would you pay for 200 M$ in EBITDA? Aproximatively 40 $ per unit.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:New Flash report from TDW
Eric, good to read your offerings here again. What you say makes make sense. Good to have your perspective.
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on Jan 11, 2023 7:23pm
I really don't understand the low valuations
I really don’t understand thinking about some of the low valuations. Really, kind of perplexed, hoping someone can show the error in my thinking. They had 40 M$ EBITDA with very poor production last
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RE:RE:RE:RE:New Flash report from TDW
Eric, good to read you offerings here again. What you say makes make sense.
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on Jan 11, 2023 4:46pm
RE:Cost 750 MUSD to build similar plant in China
Glencore was braging about 6-7 years ago about controlling world zinc prices after it claimed to own about 5% of the total zinc assets--enough to give them the leverage they needed. I genrally make
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on Jan 11, 2023 2:55pm
Cost 750 MUSD to build similar plant in China
So, what is a new plant worth. Zhuzhou group had to rebuild plant due to pollution concerns for a cost over 750 MUSD (just over Billion Canadian). So, who would buy the plant? Apparently, China no
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RE:RE:RE:RE:New Flash report from TDW
Your question is a good one Eric; and to be honest I am not really sure how I can up with that figure. Numbers are funny that way sometimes but I will try to examine my thinking. Refurb
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on Jan 11, 2023 12:57pm
RE:RE:RE:New Flash report from TDW
Why 2.25 $ ? That's a 112 500 000 $ Valuation. So you expecting that the potential of this business is an ebitda arround 12 M$ per year ? I often say 5 $ but still, this is ONLY
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