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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum E-L Financial Corp Ltd T.ELF

Alternate Symbol(s):  ELFIF | T.ELF.PR.F | T.ELF.PR.G | T.ELF.PR.H

Financial Services Insurance - Life
E-L Financial Corporation Limited is a Canada-based investment and insurance holding company. The Company operates through two segments: E-L Corporate and Empire Life. E-L Corporate segment represents investments in stocks and fixed income securities held directly and indirectly through pooled funds, closed-end investment companies and other investment companies. The investment strategy is to... see more

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Comment by Thor16on May 10, 2022 5:10pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:ncib

Chuck - what would you think the actual public float sits at currently?  650k?
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Comment by Thor16on May 10, 2022 12:52pm

RE:RE:RE:ncib

24k really is a substantial number considering the "actual" public float.  Should be interesting to see what they do in May.  Maybe the day will come this year, who knows! :)
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Comment by chuck84on May 10, 2022 12:30pm

RE:RE:ncib

as always EVT buyback less active due to limited float. it was ELF's buyback was referring to. got 8200 in march and a whopping 16200 in april.  they are getting more daily as market ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on May 09, 2022 8:54pm

RE:ncib

At this point it may just be the two of us left! Thanks for the update - I appreciate it.  I hadn't looked at buyback activity ( I should have ) as it slowed down.  Today i thought to ...more  
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Post by chuck84on May 09, 2022 8:15am

ncib

thor, not too many of us left judging by lack of activity on various boards. NCIB has been more active than anytime since spring 2020 when maxed out that year after slow start, they got 8k+ in ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Feb 10, 2022 4:16pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

Ain't that the truth.... :) ELF is the endgame, EVT just a piece of the puzzle.  Should be a great story to look back on one day.
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Comment by chuck84on Feb 10, 2022 3:46pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

you mean +/- 5 years. we are on ELF time! do believe when it occurs, will be a share exchange so unless there is a cash component for minority, won't be quite the $300NAV one might hope for ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Feb 10, 2022 12:08pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

Just figure out the exact date and time it will be taken private and we are good :)
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Comment by chuck84on Feb 10, 2022 9:23am

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

the definition of "net investment income" includes realized capital gains so would seem they had some realized gains above and beyond dividend income. spend most of my time modelling ELF but ...more  
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Comment by chuck84on Feb 10, 2022 9:04am

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

yeah, definitely higher than i expected, which is nice. will await the financials to see where the extra net investment income came from. reads as though it was all generated in 2021 as opposed to ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Feb 09, 2022 6:17pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

It looks like we met in the middle.  Thank you for compromising :) Assuming nothing else exciting happens 2022, reconvene same place same time next year?
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Comment by chuck84on Jan 19, 2022 9:29am

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

actually my approach overly complicates matters. far simpler to just read financials... 2020 they earned 34.7mm of divs and paid out 29mm ($1.2/sh recurring and the $4 special - taxes being the ...more  
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Comment by chuck84on Jan 18, 2022 10:15pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

worth noting that no reason they couldn't pay out more than just the divs received. after all ELF paid a large special from gains, not divs given EVT at nearly a 60% discount to true ELF adjusted ...more  
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Comment by chuck84on Jan 18, 2022 10:03pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

no worries. reading my reply back... to clarify the "750mm non ELF".... - take the net asset value and add back in deferred taxes to arrive at total assets - back out the ELF "direct ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Jan 18, 2022 6:59pm

RE:RE:RE:EVT Annual Distribution

Ignore this post i forgot we are looking at EVT not ELF - and I can't figure out how to delete my own post.
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