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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum E-L Financial Corp Ltd T.ELF

Alternate Symbol(s):  ELFIF | T.ELF.PR.F | T.ELF.PR.G | T.ELF.PR.H

Financial Services Insurance - Life
E-L Financial Corporation Limited is a Canada-based investment and insurance holding company. The Company operates through two segments: E-L Corporate and Empire Life. E-L Corporate segment represents investments in stocks and fixed income securities held directly and indirectly through pooled funds, closed-end investment companies and other investment companies. The investment strategy is to... see more

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Post by HermannHalleron Sep 07, 2021 10:01am

Book value discount

Why is this trading over 50% discount to equity value? It looks like it was at about a 35% discount a few years ago. Has it just expanded over time? I'm new to this, any input is appreciated.
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Comment by chuck84on Sep 05, 2021 4:45pm

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for the entirety of ELF's (UNC & EVT included) existence, they have ONLY used the private holdco's to aquire ELF stock (no NCIB or SIBs). hence the existence of the reciprocal shares ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Sep 05, 2021 2:47pm

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If cash is already in the company why not just buy back and cancel if there is liquidty?  Why pay it to the holding companies, seems like an added step?
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Comment by chuck84on Sep 05, 2021 9:27am

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the absence of the ncib over past 6 months has been perplexing but did have the desired effect of frustrating someone into being the consistent seller. as i said, would be shocked if wasn't the ...more  
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Post by Betteryear2on Sep 03, 2021 5:14pm

Announces Dividend

TORONTO, Sept. 3, 2021 /CNW/ - The Board of Directors of E-L Financial Corporation Limited ("E-L Financial" or "the Company") (TSX: ELF) (TSX: ELF.PR.F) (TSX ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Aug 26, 2021 10:42am

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Good points.  Would certainly make sense if that is the case.
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Comment by chuck84on Aug 25, 2021 8:52am

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my gut tells me that the consistent buying by scotia and others is likely one of the Jackman's non reporting privates that hold ELF either inside ELF (and in which case would add to reciprocal ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Aug 20, 2021 1:40pm

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A little surprising we haven't seen ELF iniate another SIB.  Thoughts?
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Post by Betteryear2on Aug 05, 2021 7:41pm

Limited announces Dividends

TORONTO, Aug. 5, 2021 /CNW/ - The Board of Directors of E-L Financial Corporation Limited (TSX:ELF) (TSX:ELF.PR.F) (TSX:ELF.PR.G) (TSX:ELF.PR.H) today declared the following cash dividends:  ...more  
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Comment by Methodon Jun 10, 2021 4:41am

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There seems to be a decent amount of supply below 970 and I think another SIB is possible in August or November. I also think an SIB is more likely to happen if the stock trades in a range for a while ...more  
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Comment by Methodon Jun 09, 2021 5:12pm

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I own a lot already but i would probably try to buy up to 970 right now. I invest for long term returns of north of 10% and it's hard to not see IV grow at least that fast if the market returns 10 ...more  
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Comment by Thor16on Jun 09, 2021 10:21am

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Method what price range are you comfortable buying shares at right now?  800-1200?
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Comment by Methodon Jun 07, 2021 11:13pm

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Thanks for the tip. I was legitimately looking for an answer as clearly those rules don't matter because ELF has never had more than 5m shares outstanding. Send me a PM for whatever doesn't ...more  
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