RE: First and Foremost,Well, one thing that we will agree to agree on is that pbg is one heck of an investment. We will probably never see eye to eye on GW?.
In terms of troposphere temperature, you speak with authority, I'm just a simple guy w/ conservative values and a spot soft for fresh air and clean water. I have it that the scientests who propogated that theory on troposphere temperatures have admitted to errors in their models, although they maintain their work is valid. While other scientests have said not so fast and dismiss the GW dismissal! See exerpt below from americanscientest.org. No doubt you would be able to refute the refuters who refuted the refuters?
That Suzuki has 5 kids (from two marriages), I'm thinking that those 5 kids probably live a benign lifestyle in terms of the enviornment, and besides, hypocrisy aside I don't think that alone should mean that he should be muzzled or disregarded.
Troposphere Warming, Too: Studies Find Flaws with Earlier Climate Data
Three new studies find fault with temperature data purported to chill evidence for global warming. While the earth's surface temperatures have been rising over the past several decades, data taken from satellites and weather balloons showed that temperatures in the troposphere, the lowest level of the atmosphere, have remained steady, even dropping over the tropics. Climate computer models suggest that since the troposphere butts up against the earth's surface, this discrepancy should not exist if global warming is occurring. In the largely political debate over climate change, the tropospheric temperature readings have proved to be a hot spot for those on the hunt for uncertainties in the science.
University of Alabama at Huntsville scientists John Christy and Roy Spencer are the two scientists who have mined the vast amounts of data from weather balloons and satellites to compose the troubling tropospheric temperature history. In doing so, they had to correct for environmental effects. The new studies, all of which were published in the online version of the journal Science, assert that their corrections, and hence their calculations, were wrong. One of the studies showed that Christy and Spencer had over-corrected for the sunlight's warming effect on temperature sensors attached to weather balloons. Another put forward that they also made a mistake in calculating for the way wind moved around the satellites. A third study factored in the errors, and came out with a warming of the troposphere very much in line with rising surface temperatures and computer models.
Christy and Spencer agreed that they had made mistakes in calculating the balloon and satellite data. But they still believe that the warming rate for the troposphere is out of line with that seen on the surface. "We still have this modest warming," Christy told the New York Times. Other climate scientists say the new work puts to rest any talk of discrepancy.