AntDo you know whats laughable? Your opinion on what a debate means? "you want a real discussion? Listen to both sides" You are either the biggest hypocrite or dumber than a post. Which is it? You have still not, after many chances answered my questions on the 70-80% tax. You have been given the chance to debate, to discuss but instead you belabour the same old point. "I need clarification" I don't know if you are a basher or not, could care less. But if you are they must have been scraping the bottom of the barrel before they let you out of Basher U.