RE: johng..vegas aka bigjockYou are a joke man. If you would have listened to me months ago and systematically traded this sucker between 45 and 55 you would have a load of cash..but no..you just sit there with a long position waiting for something which may not come until after the commodities run is over. I also laugh as you talk about manipulation when the stock is down..but when it is going up everything is just A-okay.