RE: me 2I invest in many stocks. What is stupid here, is that the potential is there, but these guys have shown themselves incapable of handling it, in my opinion. Instead of selling it ALL for something reasonable, or letting someone else take the reigns they spend way too much time to arrive at dead ends, once again, in my opinion. The key here is simple: take the assets, get the shareholders value. If you can't promote, market etc. and raise money at reasonable rates, or do JV's with others, then you are going to destroy the core value in endless dilution while holding on. The management, as far as I can see, has lost all credibility, therefore they seem to grovel around with ???? parties, and get no results. Meanwhile the clock is ticking away, and the money is not there. I would even prefer a roll back of 10 or 20 for 1, IF they had new managment, that was capable, not some group of friends for same old, same old. You want results, that is how you will get them.imo Why am I here? Because I have held some, traded it, sold most, but see the potential going down the drain. My other positions: incredible K from under 8, Eld, HRG, G, and various other situations, all doing well. Some have issues, but have gotten their act together.imo TVI has to do same, and should, but probably will not. Ask yourself WHY? Do not blame the messenger, direct your questions to the people bringing you this performance: Management. It always amazes me how folks do this, shoot the messenger, and leave the real reasons untouched, and under no pressure to change. My suggestion still: want results: shareholder revolt.