RE: Karl and JerryUsually when shareholders try to take over it makes everything worse. VAN management has done a great job of puting assets into this company and now need to focus on developing a competent investor awareness campaign. A couple of random shareholders posting on public message boards isn't impressive at all- it's amateur hour. But now that they have chosen this amateur hour forum they should come out and post their CVs and outline their agenda. They are soliciting my shares- it's the least they could do.