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Pinetree Capital Ltd T.PNP.DB


Primary Symbol: T.PNP Alternate Symbol(s):  PNPFF

Pinetree Capital Ltd. is a value-oriented investment and merchant banking company focused on the technology sector. The Company's objective is to maximize shareholder value. It invests primarily in equity, as well as debt and convertible securities. The Company holds approximately 8-12 investments, resulting in equity positions between 7% and 12% of assets (though its positions may at times reach or exceed 20%). Its subsidiaries include Pinetree Capital Investment Corp. (PCIC) and Emerald Capital Corp., and Pinetree Income Partnership (PIP).


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Comment by jpsartreanon Jul 11, 2008 5:44pm
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RE: CFO response re: moronic valuation policy

RE: CFO response re: moronic valuation policySorry - exchange traded warrants would be valued at market.  It is the non-trading, out of the money warrants (a VAST majority of Pinetree's holdings - some 140M+ shares altogether) that Pinetree choses to carry at $0.00

However, anyone familiar with warrants and/or Black-Scholes realizes that these DO have significant value.

For example, Pinetree owned 6,000,000 warrants on Western Potash at ast quarter at an exercise of $.75 through October 15th, 2009 - they carried these on their balance sheet at a value of $0.00 - fast forward to today and these warrants now have an INTRINSIC value of $4,860,000.  

Something that was 'worthless' became worth $4.86 million... Go figure...

These companies that Pinetree invests in are required to value any broker warrants they issue on their balance sheets using Black Scholes - why Pinetree choses not to use Black Scholes as well is utterly moronic.

Their investees have HUGE volatilities - on average well above 100% - FYI this is more than DOUBLE the volatility of a company like Baidu...

Thus the potential value these warrants hold is VERY real - and considerably large --> ~$50 million by my calculations, if not more...


That's nearly another $.50 in NAV on a company already trading at a 50%+ discount... crackerjack accounting there brainiacs...

I PRAY I get to meet Mr. Inwentash and/or Goldberg someday...
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