RE: hopelessYou are right about this management. i got out quite a while ago, i think this should be a great stock but i was lucky enough to work with some of these guys before, they were useless then and they are still useless. I think dispite management it will go up again, POG will taken it up but looks like you will need $1500 an OZ to move it. These guys should be voted out at next AGM, they are useless.