Re Point of View Artie, stop the talk about being a basher. Telling the truth is not bashing, except in the star clouded eyes of Pollyanna dreamers, and there are now a few on this forum. The dreamers all have the same mind set, " Don't bother me with the facts, I know how I feel". They "Fairy Tale" interpret the facts and try to palm off their star- studded dreams as reality Real optimists will base their optimism on the reality of a given set of facts, and not on how they feel. You are not a "Basher"., you are a realist. I just bypass their idiotic posts and just read the posts of those who accept the facts, and face the situation as it is, not as they want it to be. That brings to mind some posters that have faded from this forum. Where are HardRockMiner, and Prospector, and Curvature, etc? Their perspectives were always thought provoking. Thank God for you and Richard and Aimer300, and Aristo. Keep the faith and hang in there. JMHO Just My Humble Opinion ICE