RE: Doingthejob for AatozzNickel77,
Ironic that Rockbottom got confused over the other multiple alias basher, isn't it.
I think that aatozz is now trying to deflect from what he said that constitutes libel, by posting information taken directly from LBE releases. He has pasted excerpts from the financial statements which all LBE supporters and anyone else that's interested has had access to from the time of the financing arrangement. He then uses his contorted and inept reasoning to try and make a case supporting his belief that LBE is a poor investment. There's nothing wrong with this - there's no law against stupidity - if there was both aatozz and Rockbottom would be sharing a terminal in the Prison library. Anyone interested in the credibility of aatozz or Rockbottom would realize that these are the same geniuses that made a similar case citing ISM as a well managed company. Both of these fools have admitted how wrong they were on that assessment, by distancing themselves from the ISM discussions. It's evident that their understanding of LBE potential is every bit as flawed as their understanding of ISM red flags has proved to be.
But the point remains that defamatory remarks have been used by the aatozz/doingthejob aliases and the rocksolid47/trailorparkboy/drillbit2008 aliases, in their effort to bash LBE. aatozz is trying to deflect from this fact by now mixing factual LBE releases, and giving an opinion on them. However, his prior comments were not opinions based on facts, they were misrepresentations, unsubstantiated by factual reference, that defamed LBE, Jilin Jien and the LBE CEO.
Here are samples of what he has said:
1. "LBE is such a small blip on their radar that their investment here was only done so they could rape and hollow out LBE."
2. So I'll deal with your accusation: "...accruing 8% interest on current and new debt (predatory for a majority shareholder)..."
You will note that aatozz does not respond, when I say that these statements cannot be supported by fact. He ignores any further comment on #1; and is unable to provide evidence that 8% interest on the debt is "predatory".
In his effort to bash, aatozz stepped over the line and into an area that is outright libel. Use of the term "rape" is easily understood. Rape is a serious offence, as is its meaning, when applied in aatozz' context. aatozz' choice of "predatory" may come from a characteristic I've mentioned before. When some people don't understand the subject they've chosen to expound upon, they resort to buzzwords that they believe give them credibility. Or maybe aatozz knew the meaning of predatory, and used it for the same reason he used "rape".
A dictionary definition of "predatory" is:
a : of, relating to, or practicing plunder, pillage, or rapine
b : inclined or intended to injure or exploit others for personal gain or profit <predatory pricing practices>
So, aatozz' charges of rape, and charging predatory interest rates, are very serious charges. And when such very serious charges are made against a corporation and its officers, those entities can initiate a lawsuit for libel. The plaintiffs will provide their reasons for stating that the comments are defamatory. In this case, Jilin Jien would provide evidence of their past actions in other similar investments, and their fair dealings to date with LBE, indicate that their LBE investment was not made for the purpose of "raping" LBE. They would also provide numerous examples of similar financing packages involving other mining companies, as evidence that the 8% interest charge was not predatory. The defendant would be given the opportunity to provide evidence that justified his charges of rape, plunder, pillage, intention to injure and exploit. The libel charges would be judged on the basis of the evidence presented, and responsibility for costs, and any rewards would be determined accordingly.
The outcome? I've done sufficient research to conclude that in my opinion aatozz wouldn't have a hope of defending himself. My guess is that his lawyer would come to this conclusion in short order, and attemept to come to a settlement that would minimize the financial penalties to aatozz. If this didn't happen, the outcome would take longer to determine, including more legal and court costs. Eventually the matter would be settled in the Courts, and in my opinion, the plaintiffs would win the case, and be awarded costs, and damages.
So Nickel77, I suggest that LBE supporters do two things. First, continue to set out reasons that the bashing efforts of aatozz, rocksolid47 and their many aliases involve flawed reasoning from posters with a past history of poor judgement and questionable integrity. Second, continue to advise LBE that as shareholders of LBE, we feel that libelous actions against our company not be tolerated.