BASHERS HAND BOOK !!!This fits Axeman and Tammer to a tee! Great post. I have watched this board forever but never felt compelled to post and was just being entertained by the BS. LOL
I would rate Axeman as a grade A basher and Tammer a wannabe Grade F basher. At least Axeman makes it entertaining.
Tammer sounds like a washed up Snow lake miner who is mad at himself for selling at .35 Brains of a Miner
Axeman just gets kicks out of pissing off the managment and yes is trying to get sheep to sell as he makes big gains.
If this was a losser stock then no one would bother bashing like the handbook says. Just look at the Jimminex stock or Copper Reef. Both are not worth bashing about.
Cheers and read the hand book again as it did not show up well on the post before.
| The Basher's Handbook |
| Reprinted here as a service to those who doubt this actually exists, or is simply an unfounded urban legend. |
Is the "Bashing" of a stockan essential part of the online investment landscape?
Our Constitution guarantees us free speech and wehave always valued the lessons gleaned from dissent. When does dissent crossover that imaginary line and become "Bashing"? To often we find wellgrounded dissent capriciously labeled as "Bashing" by over zealousinvestors bent on protecting a stocks reputation at any cost. The"Bashing" that is addressed on this site is quite different fromdissent. The Anatomy of a Basher strives to look at the calculatederosion of confidence in a given stock. Erosion by means that are, in everysense, void of truth, hinged on deception and innuendo,and motivated by greed at the expense of others. This compendium isoffered to aid in identifying the telltale signs of "Bashing", andhopefully provide a counter balance to this heretofore unchecked manipulationof investors fears for personal gain.
IS IT EASIER TOSCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK? I have asked some knowledgeableinvestors this question and the answer is always: "YES,OF COURSE YES!"
WHO BASHERS PREY UPON
Consider the elderly that are investing forretirement, they find their way to the message boards for validation only tosee false posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class actionsuits"... or the head of a "typical growing family", withchildren to put through college, who is monitoring a message board only toread posts by a "pack of 15 to 20 Bashers" (probably 5 or 6under various alias's) posting continuous disinformation... what do you thinkthese new investors will do? It's safer to not buy or even sell the stock, putthe money back in the bank than to deal with all this whirl wind of"unsupported" negative chaff.
The Internet has lured a whole new class of investor into the market. A newinvestor is just that - New! This new investor, while learning thebasics, is particularly vulnerable to the tactics of professional Bashers. Newinvestors tend to lurk in the background of message boards, content to formindependent opinions based on what they read with their own eyes. Very often,honest, intelligent and cautious people can easily be overcome by a wellorchestrated propaganda effort.
You must always remember that their is a lot of money to be made in just themotion of a stock UP or DOWN it doesn't matter! And Bashers have moneyat risk just as you do. But they have the edge of fear, lies, and falsehoods topost while preying on the un-initiated. The average investor dose not havethe edge of organized deception.
Recent revelations have indicated that even Market Makers (those charged withkeeping the playing field level) have been involved in stock manipulation byBashing on a stock message board. HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS IS A REAL THREAT!
Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD STOCK. Checkthe boards for stocks with no potential. They never have any Bashers. Bashersonly go after stocks that are moving up or have excellent potential to do so.Bashers work to bring the price down to either increase their position at theexpense of others or help a Short make their bones.
Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLDNEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. New startup companies alwayshave a few bits of bad news. The Basher will post this over and over again.Unsophisticated Bashers will try to freshen up old news with a new date orby-line in an attempt to fool you.
Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMESA DAY. They try to wear you out. They comment on everything, everyother post, and can answer every question. THEYKNOW IT ALL! There is no positive comment they won't Bash. They tryto control the board. True longs may have to confront the Bashers or theywill appear to the newbies as being the people with all the information. Thisis best accomplished by posting positive, well researched data on the company,repetitively, while trying hard not to engage the Bashers in direct repartee.REMEMBER - LONGS... RESIST USING THE BASHERS ALIAS!
Lesson 4: BASHERS WILL LIETO YOUR FACE. Never trust a Basher. The truth on startup companiesis that they make mistakes. What new company hasn't? The Basher will compare yourissue to a another companies, financials - deals - management, etc., trying tolure you into making an Apples to Oranges comparison. Remember each company isunique and while it is prudent to seek out established indicators, do so withcare and don't take someone else's word for it. Strive to come up with at leasta "six-pack" of indicators so your vision of the state of a companyis not tied to a single barometer. Not doing so is tantamount to going to a RaceTrack and betting on the "Pretty BrownHorsey". BASHERS WANT TO WHISPER IN YOUREAR - PLANT A SEED OFDOUBT, AND HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO RESEARCH THE TRUTH ONYOUR OWN. This ishow they achieve their greatest success.
DOUBT + FEAR + LAZINESS =BAIL OUT!
This is your investment... work for it, protect itand don't panic on the words of very shadowy figure that "has yourbest interest in their heart". Consider that one factor: Someone you havenever met, is not a member of your family, is now, out of the goodness of theirhearts - GIVING YOU FREE ADVICE (that you didn't ask for). It's a no brainer.They have motives $$$$$$$$$$$$.
Lesson 5: Bashers know YOU CAN'TVERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they make the vague statementsthey do. They rely on you being to lazy to research their droppings other thanto scan the board for others opinions. This is particularly dangerous when youconsider that Bashers work in packs and often validate and backup each others nonsense with what appears to be "innocuous andunsolicited" verification by comrade Bashers. Let's face it, we are allconditioned to "believe" everything we see in writing. If others byvirtue of their "posts" also confirm this belief, then we aresubconsciously doomed to swallow the hook, line and sinker... Basher -1 Honest Investor - 0
Lesson 6: The Bashers PLAY ON YOURLACK OF KNOWLEDGE. They can lieabout information and you won't know the difference (unless you have done yourown DD on the company and know the truth and facts).
Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. You haveheld a stock for a while. You knew it will be a big stock someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITINGFOR YOUR GAIN. That's when theBasher is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the stock was tohold it for one year. The Basher is bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day.Some others also dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to leteveryone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a semi-Basher as well. THE BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW ALLY - YOU!
Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICEDOWN. That is the Basher's job. Thetruth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board everyday. They are trying to scare the newbies that are just investigating a stock.They are trying to wear down the faithful longs on the board and gain freereign and control.
A BASHER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are goodat what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their"hand-book". Learn from it or you will be donating your hardearned money to them!
Rules for Successful Bashing:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts willlend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Buildrapport and a
support base before initiating your Bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply toyou.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate adiscussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock.Build softly.
8. Identify your foes (Longs) and the boards"guru" Use them to
your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only Bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubtcarry it the
rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being openminded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People followstrength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Notyour personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a"Basher". Newbies won't
know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then backoff. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run.Not to tank the
company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company orthe stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking.Statements to
reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, NAME CALL or USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99%won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you canalways find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people from believing PressReleases.
Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negativeconstantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning yourefforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or thePR, temporary
mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play onthat and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate aboard and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the Longs into personal debates puttingtheir
focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention fromfacts.
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investorscan turn to
instead of the one your Bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the"values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing itwith your own rules.
Grade 'A' Basher:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all positive posts with a negativeside. Never respond to being called a Basher, never post on another board withsame alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week Bashing a stock.
Grade 'B' Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" takingthe positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about60 hours a week.
Grade 'C' Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C gradedue to getting excited when Bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about40 hours a week.
Grade 'D' Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negativestatement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours aweek.
Grade 'F' Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocksin general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives norationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.
LEARN ABOUT HOW BASHERS WORK: For instance: did you know thatsome Bashers are paid?
Golden Rule:
IGNORE THEM ...learn how professionalBashers are paid: When you REPLY to Bashers you give them an opportunityto earn appox. 5-7 dollars. The service agreement they enter into with theiremployer states their messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies,etc. but Overseers and the like don't have the time to check all their Bashersmessages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the Basherwill generally read the headlines to see if a Basher is replying to otherposters by name. That tells them the Basher isn't just "posting blindly"or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay forthose.(True to form a Basher will put the bite on anyone, even theirunscrupulous employer). A Basher will attempt to milk three to five replies perpost at one to two dollars each. This way the Basher spreads negative influenceto as many stockholders as possible. A Basher will create this discussionthread because it takes less time reading more messages than is necessary. Thisultimately allows the Basher more time to post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER.Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion. NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE BASHER,S AID! If you feelcompelled to challenge a Basher do so without mentioning his/her true alias inyour response. This will make it hard for the Basher to use your post as arevenue stream. Read the news, do your own homework and make your owndecisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. DueDiligence is key here. Know that there will be a time when the stock runs upwhich will be followed followed by the Bashers and those that missed the boat.The Bashers will trash the stock by saying such things as "it's a Pump andDump" and "the company is lying" and deceiving. There goal is toscare off newbies and potential new investors by "shaking" you out ofyour shares. Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust your own judgement andbelieve in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and live with it. Don'tlisten to hype or Bashers trust your own judgement. Live by the rules you havecreated .
HOW TO IDENTIFY A BASHER
1. Check the "Born on Date" Basherscreate identities on a regular basis. Rarely do you find a Basher with older"Created On" date. So click on the Identity icon for moredetails.
2. Take the time to look at the Basher'shistory of Posts. Go to other boards and see if their is a pattern to the themeof the posts. Bashers rarely waste time trying to blend in with"positive" posts, unless they are cultivating a new uninformedassistant.
3. When did the Basher show up. Bashersrarely show up when activity is in at a Lull. They show up when activityup/down..
4. Bashers never answer direct questionsexcept with another question.
5. Bashers do work in teams (sometimesthemselves as a team). So be suspicious of someone showing up andautomatically having a Shadow to converse with who supports theirargument.
6. Bashers always select "anargument" that can never be resolved by research.
The Basher 'Pack'Mentality
Bashers love to work in packs. It provides thequintessential cover to achieve supposedly "independent" validationof an argument. It is neither independent nor validating.
Pack Structure: Basher Packs can be comprised of any number of Bashers. Theycan be purposely formed within an organization or they can be "adhoc" formed during a conclave on a particular board. In fact a packmentality can be achieved by an ambitious "party of one" with a fewselect aliases.
Once a pack is formed, a leader emerges. This leader is usually acknowledged byother Bashers because of 1. Knowledge of the stock. or 2. Recognitionby current board Longs (high visibility). Once established the Leader willusually work the Pack members up in to a posting frenzy. Constantly changingthemes and even occasionally biting the ear of another pack member (this earnsinstant credibility), and it doesn't offend the bitten Basher because he/sheknows it is all part of the effect. Quite sophisticated.
Packs will disband and slink away without notice.Usually this is the call of the Pack Leader who is adept at recognizing overplay.More often than not, Pack members must move on because they have other Bashingcommitments to fulfill. They will return to the site of a good hunt over andover again, until hamstringing is achieved.
What calls a pack together. The Cry of the Leader. Certain Bashers love to worktogether. They know each others bite, how to feign in and out, it is a wellchoreographed Bash when pack members have worked together before. Theyconstantly check their "Sites Du Jour" for signs of Pack activity.Occasionally they will throw out a "Nibbler" Bash to see if the packresponds or if not they can work the site themselves. It's all abouteffectiveness, time and earning money.
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