RE: probably all time lows soon,,, what I see from my corner of the world is that most of the commodity plays are getting a good shaking out......their fundamentals haven't changed,,,,,,,,I will bet gold is going to spike as soon as there is definition to the US debt plan,, then the hard assets will be reflected in these markets. Either way there is no other direction for gold and commodities to move but up in general. Raising the debt ceiling in the US is confirmation that printing $$$ is the global answer to debt!! And that should be terrific for PMs and commodity prices!!