My thoughts on Ortsbo valuation... I don't often agree with TraderDad's manipulative swing-trading flip-flopping posts, but I also believe that given the information provided so far, Ortsbo's full valuation may be around $600M. I'm leaning more towards $600-800M but just like TraderDad, my real hope is to be pleasantly surprised with a >$1B valuation. DL is full of surprises and the back-room progress has always impressed, so let's hope that TraderDad and I are way off the mark.