Yukoninvestor NIcely put. I could not have said it better than that. These guy's track record speaks for itself and it is going to be difficult for this group to finance based upon what they have done to date. I expect we will see trench results at some point here on Rosebute via Shawn Ryan who apparently is becoming more involved. May be there is a trade here at these levels , but it is risky and does nothing to solve the fact that Zack and the boys are running out of money by continuing top pay themselves these outlandish fees and salaries. If they are successful with a financing, it is huge dilution at these prices. Kaminak and Atac have continually put out great resource numbers and their share prices are at lows over the last year. If there is a short term trade , you had better be nimble if you get the chance. A real pity to see this group treat this company as their own piggy bank at the expense of the shareholders.