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Turquoise Hill Resources Ltd. T.TRQ

Turquoise Hill Resources Ltd is a global mining company that primarily mines copper, gold, and coal in the Asia-Pacific region. The company holds a 66% interest in Oyu Tolgoi, one of the world's largest copper-gold-silver mines, which ships concentrate to customers in China. Oyu Tolgoi is located in the South Gobi region of Mongolia, approximately 550 km south of the capital, Ulaanbaatar, and 80 km north of the Mongolia-China border. The company also holds interests in companies that mine...


TSX:TRQ - Post by User

Post by GEEEon Mar 05, 2013 6:42pm
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Post# 21083019

NEW TRQ TARGET =$2

NEW TRQ TARGET =$2

 

TRQ   2  y   chart  vs   COPX    and  CU =  2    Cu miners  ETFs
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=TRQ.TO&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=CU+copx&ql=1


 1.Cu   MINERS  TOPPED  IN  EARLY  2011  
 AND  TANKING  STEADY   FOR  2.2  Y  SO  FAR   =   40%

2  TRQ  till   Jan  2012    was  moving in line   with the   index
 but  after  that  TRQ  became  a  BIG OUTLINER
=   tanked  DOUBLE  the  index =  almost  80%
--$  28  to  7  =    chopped  in  half  and  then  again in   half


- Cap  $  21  b  before  dilution  to  7  b  now  
-  RIO  lost  only  $  2 b  on   TRQ  investment  out  of  those 

$ 14  b   TOTAL  loss.


--  1/2  of  those  $14  b loss =  $  7  B  attributable  to   M  DONKS


--    vs  DONKS possible    gain   no more  than  $  700m
-- $  1  DONKS  GAIN =  $  10  TRQ loss.

3. What  happened   in  Jan  2012   to  cause   such big  difference ?
-- RIO  took  over
_ instantly   diluted  TRQ by  30  %  
--  then the   M  donks   got    bazukas  
- then  OT  was  delayed   1  y =  $  1B  loss in  NPV
- then  capex   overruns  
-- then  investors  started  to  realise  TRQ  EPS   after  all  above  will be  26-32  c   for  next  5  y  
 Less if    Cu  prices  will be   tanking  for  next  20  Y


-- then  investors  realized    TRQ   debt  will be  close  to  100%  cap
--  and   serving    final (  rising in tranches) $  5- 7  b debt    at  only  5%  =
=    $  250 -  350 m /y  interest =  MOST  or  WHOLE  or  more than TRQ INCOME during first  5  Y


--Don't  even  dream  of  paying the   future  debt  down  in  foreseable   future  
  GEEEEESUS  
--  the  ONLY  THING  WICH  CAN  SAVE  trq   future  BALANCE  SHEET  
IS    SALE  OF  ALL  OTHER  BUT  OT  ASSETS   

 but  not  at  those low  prices 

...  of  course   main  remaining  TRQ   asset  =

  $  1.6 b  (  forget  about  such price now )   sale  of  SGQ ( $ 900m  for  TRQ )  is  not  allowed  by  donks 


-- if  interest  will be   deducted  before   arriving  at  EPS
  -- EPS  can be  below  10 c    =  $  1   target  @  HIGH  for   such  a  dog   P/E  of  10.


-- so  the  pumping  will concentrate  for  another  10  Y  not  on  EPS  
 but on  obsolete  for   a producer  metrics  like  NAV , NPV ,,  
2020   happy  EPS  projections  , gadzinllions  in  ground   etc
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WHAT  CHARTS  ARE  SAYING ?


https://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=TRQ.TO&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=m200%2Cm50&a=&c=


1.  FRACTALS  
It is  2011   all over  again
The  chart  pattern  on  top   2011  from Feb  to  Oct  is  so  far  a
CARBON COPY  of   pattern  on  bottom  now  (  starting  mid  2012 )


--  same   3  tops  and  2  bottoms  within  a   sliding   slightly  down    channel
--  same   4-th  top   (  which  at  the  time  looked  as  a  breakout
-  FAKE  ONE  as  we  see now )  breaking   above  the  top  line of   channel
 and  hitting  200DMA  resistance  in  Aug  2011  and   Jan  2013
--   right  now   we  are  approaching  the  rebound  equivalent
of  Apr   2012  -  up  ...to  50  DMA  
-- WHAT  HAPPENED   AFTER  THE   REBOUND IN  APR  2012  HIT  THE  50  DMA  resistance ?
--HUGE     1 MONTH -LONG -DROP   FROM  18  TO  8.5   BY MID  MAY  2012 =  50
%


https://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=TRQ.TO&t=1y&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=m200%2Cm50&a=&c=


--  SO  IF  THE  PATTERN  WILL  CONTINUE    WE    WILL SEE  50%  DROP   FROM  50  DMA  NOW  AT  $ 8
  TO  $  4    BY  ABOUT  MID  MAY  2013  


This  move  can  be   supported  by  all kinds  of   possible  news
  like    delay  again  June   prod  
,  donks  grabbing   too much    
 DONKS  "FORGIVING  THEMSELVES "  TRQ   DEBT and  ,or GOM CAPEX  OBLIGATIONS    ETC
 ...  GEEESUS

  2.   There  is  some  weak  horizontal  support   at  2004  lows
  and  late  2009  dip   =  $ 5.5  

3.  Otherwise  there is  pure  air  below   -  the  mother of   all  H&S
  points  to  $  2  =  2009  lows  


https://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=TRQ.TO&t=my&l=off&z=l&q=l&p=m200%2Cm50&a=&c=


4. The  last  line  of    defense is   a trendline   along   2001  and  2009 lows
  pointing  to  $  2.5
.  geeeesus  
.,MORE  HERE  


https://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/messagedetail.aspx?p=0&m=32271335&l=0&r=0&s=trq&t=list
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