RE:RE:Fck 'em, I soldI see how Zeus gets his numbers if one starts with a quarterly EBITDA of $12 million then deduct $6million in interest and other non-EBITDA items (see prior quarters) and then deduct maintenance capex (about $8 million). Now this assumes that the $10 million in charges all happened in the 3rd qtr which they didn't - we don't know how much did which is part of the problem.