Was mentioned to me that they could not rais the debt They were not able to sell the debt at all. Who knows? Better have some indication on refi on this next CC. Or we will be back to .08. Simple news on UT will not be what us little stupid retailors give a horse dung about. So we are just the stupid that they owe nothing . So lesson learned. Never again trust a micro. Your held hostage. Even though the CEP is Class A and track record to prove it. Will file it away for 3 years and check back then. Love to send Carl Icon in and kick some butt. Does anyone know the facts on the COO? Whos running South America?