Having a good chuckle with my coffee this AMafter reading Bob G's response to me where he's saying that he's actually trying to goad ZEN into revealing their process work for the public good, and NOT to help other graphite companies who may be running into issues. you know Bob instead of helping people who have plenty of money to toss at Venture stocks, perhaps you could consider helping those who really need it and sign up for a stint at Habitat for Humanity, or grab a ladle at a local soup kitchen.