RE:seriously though....These stocks are challenging, I think we'll make some money, but only if you are VERY patient. The few stocks I've followed with this management eventually do fine in the end but there can be volatile times.....for some people this can be positive if your willing to take afew chances. Personally I like to relax and wait. I'll wait...but I am prepared for a very long wait...a surprise would be nice though..good luck to all in the new year.