RE:RE:RE:Stockhouse vs SIChief, the reason "they do it" is obvious. They are "in love" with Zenyatta, it's management and the glorious pumpers.....
This is a well known issue with investors......most of us have been there and done that...got the T shirt.....
The reasons investors are vulnerable to this phenomonon are numerous but here are a few....
1. Investors all want to get rich....have a ten bagger....ZEN to TEN, Twenty etc...
2. They want it so bad they can taste it......it's like a teenager in love for the first time...nothing compares to the object of their affection....they are blind to any pimples/frailties.....they are deaf to any fed flags.....
3.They believe that all company management are invincable and always tell the truth....they are vulnerable to slick promoters .....
4. They believe that all company propaganda is fully representative of the company and is not slanted in favour of the company.....
5. In this case they ignore the obvious message that the long delayed PEA is sending....they believe the company excuse that SGS is just tweeking the "flow sheet" and that the PEA is just a matter of time....month after month.....ignoring this obvious red flag is a symptom of the in love condition and could easily be a fatal flaw for investors....
6. They follow the glorious pumpers like sheep....believing that the glorious pumpers have the "inside information" suggesting that success is just around the corner ....they don't realise that acting on such inside information woulld be illegal (for company management, the glorious pumpers and the investors)....
7. They are so adverse to contrarian views that they drown out all opposing views....in this case they open up their own pumper site where all nay sayers are immediately banned.....an obvious sign that they are hooked and smitten....
Chief this is a common fault among all investors not just investors in graphite companies.....most investors are not professionals, just average joe's wanting to make a few bucks in the risky venture market...it isn't a lot different than buying lottery tickets....
So it is not as if the zeenies are any different than most investors.....we are all succeptable to this fatal flaw unless we are constantly reminded of the pitfalls.....we need to be constantly watching for the red flags....
the_Chief wrote: I really am not trying to poop on anyones parade but some of the things the SI backslappers say is so far out to lunch its unreal. Why do they do it, well ZEN to $20 obviously. If ZEN is going to $20 which I hardly doubt, then why not address the real issues. Only one reason. Never address reality always live in La-La land is their code.
They may say the same about my stock, however, were not in the sam league, were not trying to put GM out of business lol Maybe the grocery store on the corner of WhattheFark and Main... but thats about it.
the_Chief wrote: Well done, but my saying so will blackball you with Fluffy lol
No one wants to really address when a PEA is likely based on KNOWN information. Its always imminent. No one wants to discuss the comment that ZEN regarding differences in samples in the last NR, because that would lead to a discussion that the property is not stable. That may in turn be then postulated why there are 4 markets, because perhaps just perhaps their are 4 different grades of samples. The reason that won't be addressed is because one may have to address that the reason there is no stable flow sheet yet is they may need FOUR.
If so there will have to be seperation that may be difficult to figure out how to do. You see one thing leads to another. The lack of info means you have to dig into what you have. The mere fact that these samples are considered experimental and may not represent the final product, also tells you something....that full up production may not be as easy as you were initially led to believe.
So balancing your optimism with a healthy dose of reality works. SI back slappers, really don't.
Siestakey00 wrote: Habanadude left here today, requesting the last Zen sharholder turn the lights out, and exiting for SI. A few weeks back there were several SI posters here stating the real informed Zen discussion was over there.
Moreover there is a supposed movement to ignore the existance of stockhouse and maintain a discussion that is of high quality. One poster eloquently summarized a commonly held view, "You can start by not going to the site, SH is a cesspool. ... We have a lot of very intelligent pro ZEN posters here and on AG, why lower your standards ..."
So I put this assertion to the test (1. that they are better off without us, and 2. that the discussion as SI is of a high quality relating to Zenyatta Ventures ... Instead of expressing an opinion (which can get twisted) I'll just stick to facts.
Since Monday morning at 11:30 am there have been 115 posts at SI which are supposedly on the subject of Zen.
- 47 posts are about Stockhouse or Stockhouse members (and many of these posts celebrate what a great job SI members are doing ignoring Stockhouse and its members)
- 26 posts were about Fluffy the Cat? (I'm serious - 26)
- That only leaves 42 posts - The vast majority of these remaining posts were one sentence posts (or shorter -- e.g. a quick joke or a few words of agreement).
So ... I'm objectively trying to find the source of the most informed discussion - granted, its not always here either -- But there are soooooo many SI members who have frequented here claiming with absolute certainy that informative discussion is there at SI (and I believe they really do believe this to be true) ... and yet the evidence demonstrates there is almost no informed discussion there relating to Zen.