RE:Mining reps discuss business in Ketchikanso if i'm reading this correctly, UCU hasn't begun the permit process which will take 2 years so optimistically permits might be received July 2017 and the mine built and operating in less than a year after that? I don't think so. I'm going to have to pull a rip van winkle and put this one out of sight out of mind for awhile. I sure hope we are rewarded at some point for our patience because we're going to need it.