RE:Oops..I was Wrong Panther10 The facts are Q1 and Q4 both had losses over 1 million each. Q2 and Q3 each had profits well under a million each no good news here. You make it sound like paying the debenture is a unheard of thing it is a loan it has to be payed back. The debentures are coming due 2016 one in Jan one in June. Tell us how the second debenture will be payed in June now that would be news.